
Randy Wolf
#1
Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:00 PM
#2
Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:14 PM
2012: 3-10, 5.69 era, 142.1 ip, 179 hits, 21 hr's, 45 bb's, 96 k's, .880 OPS against, 0.84 G/F
I think I'd rather continue to go with what we have.
With Hammel on the verge of returning, I feel pretty good about things; especially with what Tillman, and Britton have been showing.
#3
Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:56 PM
#4
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:14 PM
Brittany Ghiroli
#Orioles nearing a deal to bring lefty Randy Wolf to Baltimore, according to a source. #Brewers released him last week.
Not sure how Wolf would fit in to the O's plans. Could be a starter or a 2nd lefty in the 'pen. Patton progressing slowly from rehab.
Thoughts? I'd rather have Bedard as the spot starter/long reliever/2nd lefty in the pen, if this is what it comes to.
How would Wolf make this team significantly better as a starter?
#5
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:15 PM
#6
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:17 PM
#7
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:23 PM
Heyman confirms it.
#8
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:28 PM
Why would you want Wolf over Bedard? Stupid.
My guess is that they were already were strongly in on Wolf before the news of Bedard becoming available as my identically named thread suggested days ago.
They could still get Bedard too.
#9
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:32 PM
They could back away from Wolf...happens all the time.My guess is that they were already were strongly in on Wolf before the news of Bedard becoming available as my identically named thread suggested days ago.
They could still get Bedard too.
#10
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:38 PM
They could back away from Wolf...happens all the time.
How many teams have to pass on Bedard for us to have a shot? Quite a few right? Wolf is basically free and available. So no real loss in adding him. If he fails, they'll cut him.
#11
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:45 PM
#12
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:46 PM
I think Bedard was straight up released as well, so he is a free agent just like Wolf is, with both costing only the pro-rated minimum over the remainder of the season.How many teams have to pass on Bedard for us to have a shot? Quite a few right? Wolf is basically free and available. So no real loss in adding him. If he fails, they'll cut him.
I also would greatly prefer Bedard to Wolf, for any role. Wolf has been abysmal versus everybody this year. I see almost no upside to this move.
#13
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:47 PM
Wow um... relax people. He's signing for the pro-rated minimum. No risk, possible decent reward move.
True. And as WNST tweeted, because it's Dukes and Buck in on this deal, we have to assume it'll work because everything else has worked thus far. Right?
#14
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:50 PM
True. And as WNST tweeted, because it's Dukes and Buck in on this deal, we have to assume it'll work because everything else has worked thus far. Right?
Even if it doesn't work out... it's not like Joel Pineiro got a first-class ticket to the rotation. Maybe they'll sign Bedard too, why not.
#15
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:50 PM
Sure there is risk. He could pitch bad and cost us a game. I would assume he'll only be used in very low leverage situations...blowouts mainly, but why pick him up if that's the case?Wow um... relax people. He's signing for the pro-rated minimum. No risk, possible decent reward move.
I definitely would have preferred to see Bedard.
On the other hand, we've gotten positive contributions from some pretty unlikely sources, and with few exceptions Buck and Duquette haven't been shy about showing those unlikely sources the door once their usefulness have run dry, so I don't think there is too much to worry about. I just would have preferred Bedard be the pickup, not that Wolf necessarily precludes that from happening anyways.
#16
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:53 PM
Sure there is risk. He could pitch bad and cost us a game. I would assume he'll only be used in very low leverage situations...blowouts mainly, but why pick him up if that's the case?
I definitely would have preferred to see Bedard.
On the other hand, we've gotten positive contributions from some pretty unlikely sources, and with few exceptions Buck and Duquette haven't been shy about showing those unlikely sources the door once their usefulness have run dry, so I don't think there is too much to worry about. I just would have preferred Bedard be the pickup, not that Wolf necessarily precludes that from happening anyways.
Um no, there's not. Nothing says we have to play him. He'll have to earn his appearances through good showings in bullpens or w/e. If they just throw him in there then they're idiots. See Pineiro, Joel.
#17
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:53 PM
But it only takes one or bad outing that could hurt us.Um no, there's not. Nothing says we have to play him. He'll have to earn his appearances through good showings in bullpens or w/e. If they just throw him in there then they're idiots. See Pineiro, Joel.
Why sign garbage, when every little thing counts right now?
#18
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:57 PM
But it only takes one or bad outing that could hurt us.
Why sign garbage, when every little thing counts right now?
Why not? It's just money and not ours. I don't care if we spend $80,000 to sit him on the bench and have him throw .1 innings this season. If that helps us win then I'll take it.
It's easy to assume we're gonna throw him out there and start him next week but what proof do you have that this will happen?
#19
Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:13 PM
I'm assuming we signed him to a major league deal, not a minor league one, has it been reported differently? Even if we can make it to September without using him, he's still taking up a roster spot that could have been used these next few games.Um no, there's not. Nothing says we have to play him. He'll have to earn his appearances through good showings in bullpens or w/e. If they just throw him in there then they're idiots. See Pineiro, Joel.
Bullpens don't really show much, and I don't think he's going to be going to the minor leagues to prove what he can do. Buck seems to get new guys to the roster into games pretty quickly so he can get a look at them and either approve (Ford, McClouth) or their performance or disapprove (Romero, Socolovich) and have them sent out. I would expect that if Wolf is on the roster, the next opportunity where we have need for a reliever in a blowout loss, he'll be the first guy called. I doubt we'll see him in any high leverage situations unless we get into a very long game (which we've had multiple times this year so it's a possibility) or if he pitches well in his first several low leverage situations.
#20
Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:16 PM
I dont care about the money..I care about who you bring in.Why not? It's just money and not ours. I don't care if we spend $80,000 to sit him on the bench and have him throw .1 innings this season. If that helps us win then I'll take it.
It's easy to assume we're gonna throw him out there and start him next week but what proof do you have that this will happen?
Bedard makes more sense. DiceK makes more sense.
He may even end up being successful..but there really isn't any reason this year to believe he will be outside of a solid K/BB ratio...Now, that is very important but just isn't having that great of a year and now he is coming to the AL East. I would rather have the better arms out of the pen.
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