Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 February 2016 - 02:58 PM
http://www.thedailyb...mes-before.html
Apple opened phones 70 times before for Feds.
It says Apple did it 70 times since 2008... but was the current eat-the-data privacy scheme in place back then? Are we sure we're not talking about apples vs oranges? (I don't know the answer.)
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CFB Analyst
Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:11 PM
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to portray Apple as the standard-bearer of privacy and personal data security, even though they might have a better claim to it than anyone else in Silicon Valley. I'm sure at some point every last one of these tech companies have "helped" the government at some point or another, not to mention all the personal data they sell or give away for commercial purposes. But on this issue, I am firmly on Apple's side, no matter what their ultimate motive in taking this stand may be.
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:16 PM
Good.
Good what?
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
Rookie
Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:20 PM
Apple is fighting the FBI.
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:35 PM
It says Apple did it 70 times since 2008... but was the current eat-the-data privacy scheme in place back then? Are we sure we're not talking about apples vs oranges? (I don't know the answer.)
It doesn't sound like 2008 security to me... https://www.washingt...&wpisrc=nl_wonk
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
MVP
Posted 23 February 2016 - 08:09 AM
Microsoft founder Bill Gates has thrown his weight behind the FBI's demand that Apple give officials access to the locked, encrypted iPhone of one of the San Bernardino attackers.
Technology companies should be forced to cooperate with law enforcement in terrorism investigations, Gates said, according to a Financial Times story posted late Monday.
"This is a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case," he said.
http://www.nbcnews.c...-battle-n524031
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The Great Cornholio
Posted 23 February 2016 - 10:54 AM
San Bernardino County Calls the FBI Liars Over Terrorist's iCloud Account
In a filing yesterday the FBI claimed that the owner of the phone, San Bernardino County, had been the one who bungled the auto-backup of the phone to iCloud.
This is not true. FBI investigators worked cooperatively with the county of San Bernardino in order to exploit crucial data contained in the iCloud account associated with a county-issued iPhone that was assigned to the suspected terror suspect, Syed Rizwan Farook.
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Posted 23 February 2016 - 12:45 PM
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:17 AM
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
HOF
Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:21 AM
That link is why tl;dr came to be. But have fun with that. 
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 26 February 2016 - 09:42 AM
That link is why tl;dr came to be. But have fun with that.
I read it just to see what the media (or at least the media I encountered) didn't tell us...
Here's what I learned: the power the gov't wants to claim in this case is power that was explicitly addressed in a bill that came up for consideration previously... and both the White House and Congress decided it was a bad idea... which means they already decided in advance that the FBI should not be able to make Apple do what they now want to make them do...
So, this is not some out-of-the-blue horrible surprise situation that nobody thought about before... the gov't had previously considered this very thing and had rejected the idea that they should have the coercive right they are not claiming. What's out of the blue is not the scenario... what's out of the blue is the notion that the gov't can do this... because the gov't had already decided that (a) it didn't have this power, due to a previous law (CALEA = Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act) which explicitly said the gov't could not make Apple do what the FBI is now trying to make them do, and (b ) if the gov't needed to have this power, they needed a new law (CALEA II) to modify the previous law that said they didn't, and (c ) the gov't should not have that power, which is why the proposed new law was neither encouraged by the White House nor passed by the Congress.
In other words, the FBI's lawyers are full of crap about this one... assuming the account provided by Apple's lawyers is correct. Whether their account is correct or not is something I don't know enough about to say...
EDIT: The way the FBI got the judge to issue the court order that Apple is fighting is they went to the judge with a request for an emergency order... which meant the judge had to rule having heard the FBI's side but without Apple having a chance to give the counter-argument... so, when the court rules on Apple's effort to fight this thing, it will be the first time the court has ruled after having heard both sides...
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
HOF
Posted 14 March 2016 - 09:53 AM
As usual, John Oliver nails it.
Rookie
Posted 14 March 2016 - 10:27 AM
Imagine if a CIA agent were caught end executed by China BC the FBI has their panties in a wad.
CFB Analyst
Posted 14 March 2016 - 12:34 PM
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Posted 15 March 2016 - 11:42 AM
DOJ threatened to seize iOS source code unless Apple complies with court order in FBI case
http://www.idownload...eats-seize-ios/
Rookie
Posted 15 March 2016 - 11:54 AM
That wont happen. No judge will let it. Also they can keep source code outside the US.
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:10 PM
DOJ threatened to seize iOS source code unless Apple complies with court order in FBI case
Well, that's just bullshit... it's Exhibit #2,137 in support of the claim that even Dem administrations have become right-wing... just not as far- right as the other party, but still more-than-plenty far-right
I'm guessing that source code just got hidden in a cave someplace it takes 2 weeks to get to...
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
HOF
Posted 15 March 2016 - 06:14 PM
HOF
Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:56 PM
Well, that's just bullshit... it's Exhibit #2,137 in support of the claim that even Dem administrations have become right-wing... just not as far- right as the other party, but still more-than-plenty far-right
I'm guessing that source code just got hidden in a cave someplace it takes 2 weeks to get to...
It's in the same freezer where they keep the cryogenically frozen bodies of Steve Jobs and Walt Disney (they got him in the Pixar deal).
The amusing part is that this should be a bipartisan issue. It's both privacy (left) and government infringement on business (right).
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