O's debut tonight.

I find there is never a better time to try and repair a bad transmission than when you're 2/3 of the way through a long road trip. Agree?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and see if they can work on him. In the middle of a pennat chase is less than ideal, but if they can unlock something he had 2-3 years ago.

3 years ago. 2 years ago he was terrible.

3 years ago. 2 years ago he was terrible.

He wasn't bad last year, however, when his ERA was right around 4.00 and his WHIP 1.220. He was an All-Star one year, bad one year, and then had a bad start in 2024 but was having a good stretch when the Orioles got him. I still wish we could have gotten more for Norby, but Rogers hasn't been nearly as stinko as some want to portray him.

He wasn't bad last year, however, when his ERA was right around 4.00 and his WHIP 1.220. He was an All-Star one year, bad one year, and then had a bad start in 2024 but was having a good stretch when the Orioles got him. I still wish we could have gotten more for Norby, but Rogers hasn't been nearly as stinko as some want to portray him.

He wasn't bad last year, however, when his ERA was right around 4.00 and his WHIP 1.220. He was an All-Star one year, bad one year, and then had a bad start in 2024 but was having a good stretch when the Orioles got him. I still wish we could have gotten more for Norby, but Rogers hasn't been nearly as stinko as some want to portray him.

He didn't pitch barely at all last year.

Great in '21.  Awful in '22.  Hurt in '23.  Below average in '24.

Off-subject I guess. But as terrible as Rogers was last night, Stowers might have been worse. Fanned all 4 times he batted.

Just making an observation, not defending the trade. I think it sucked as most of you do.

Salt in the wound.

Snell wasn't getting traded regardless.

SF would have traded Snell for the right offer. It’s just that it would’ve taken an offer I doubt I’d make, and one Mike Elias definitely wouldn’t have. The bigger issue as I see it is that the Orioles should have been the ones to sign Snell to his short-term, high AAV deal in the offseason. That was the failure.

SF would have traded Snell for the right offer. It’s just that it would’ve taken an offer I doubt I’d make, and one Mike Elias definitely wouldn’t have. The bigger issue as I see it is that the Orioles should have been the ones to sign Snell to his short-term, high AAV deal in the offseason. That was the failure.

The Giants are still trying to compete for this year; they only shipped out Alex Cobb because they were getting Robbie Ray back.

My house isn't for sale, but if you offered me seven figures for it, there'd be a moving truck in my driveway tonight. I guess you could argue that Snell was available for the right price, but it was a price so exorbitant even the Giants knew they wouldn't get it. The fact he didn't move would seem to demonstrate that no one else was willing to go that high for him, either.

SF would have traded Snell for the right offer. It’s just that it would’ve taken an offer I doubt I’d make, and one Mike Elias definitely wouldn’t have. The bigger issue as I see it is that the Orioles should have been the ones to sign Snell to his short-term, high AAV deal in the offseason. That was the failure.

I agree, but that deal has been a disaster until a few weeks ago. Montgomery is the guy I wanted more (no comp pick) and he is still a disaster.

It was a disaster in the 1st half. Since returning in July Snell has been excellent. I don’t think I’d have any regrets with him in the rotation right now.

I would just like to add that Rogers and Patrick Corbin have been actually pretty similar for the last couple months, but at the deadline, Corbin gave a Nats record 11 runs that day, ....

....so hey, at least he was better than Corbin's worst ever and team record bad start.  See, sunshine.