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[PatrickDougherty]

CBSChicago: http://chicago.cbslo...-in-samardzija/

 

This reporter seems to think Bundy would be involved, but has no support for that notion and is probably wrong.

[SammyBirdland]

Ooh, very curious to hear everyone's thoughts on giving up Bundy.

[Matt_P]

Samardjiza would make sense. He's under contract for two years which is as long as we have Davis and Wieters so that makes sense. Samardjiza, Tillman, Jimenez, Chen and Gausman (soon enough).

 

I think they'd have to take Norris. We'd have no spot in the rotation for him and would need the savings. Is Bundy, Norris and Wright enough? I doubt it.  

[Coker]

Ooh, very curious to hear everyone's thoughts on giving up Bundy.

I'd.be fine giving up Bundy in the right deal. I don't think trading him for Shark is the right deal though.

Now if the Cubbies want Eduardo Rodriguez....

[PatrickDougherty]

I'd.be fine giving up Bundy in the right deal. I don't think trading him for Shark is the right deal though.

Now if the Cubbies want Eduardo Rodriguez....

I'm with you. Smardzhsdgg is good but he's not under-2.00-ERA-for-the-rest-of-his-career good. I'd offer Rodriguez first and make the Cubs work for Bundy.

 

FWIW, Shmardzifdhkjdf is making $5.345M this year, is Arb-3 next year, and a FA in 2016. A trade now would be a minimum of a year and a half of a good pitcher with the opportunity to buy out FA years before anyone else gets to him.

[NewMarketSean]

Not ready to trade Bundy yet but I know his value took a hit with TJ surgery. I don't think subtracting our best SP (Norris unfortunately) to add another SP does us any good. We'd still have a hole in the rotation and one less option to fill it. That leaves us only Gausman and he'd better not miss.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Can they take Chen far away from me?

[Matt_P]

I'm with you. Smardzhsdgg is good but he's not under-2.00-ERA-for-the-rest-of-his-career good. I'd offer Rodriguez first and make the Cubs work for Bundy.

 

FWIW, Shmardzifdhkjdf is making $5.345M this year, is Arb-3 next year, and a FA in 2016. A trade now would be a minimum of a year and a half of a good pitcher with the opportunity to buy out FA years before anyone else gets to him.

 

He's stated in interviews with Chicago newspapers that he feels an obligation to future players to earn as much money as possible in order to raise their comparables. The Os won't be able to buy out FA years.

 

They want more for Samardjdfaferwq then they did for Garza. Makes sense because he's better and you get him for a year and a half. The Cubs got an excellent relieving prospect (Ramirez), a top prospect (Edwards), a promising reliever (Grimm) and a guy that was a top prospect in Olt that had dropped in value due to eye issues.

 

I'd say the Cubs would want Bundy, Rodriguez and another two pieces (Norris and a C- prospect).

[PatrickDougherty]

He's stated in interviews with Chicago newspapers that he feels an obligation to future players to earn as much money as possible in order to raise their comparables. The Os won't be able to buy out FA years.

 

They want more for Samardjdfaferwq then they did for Garza. Makes sense because he's better and you get him for a year and a half. The Cubs got an excellent relieving prospect (Ramirez), a top prospect (Edwards), a promising reliever (Grimm) and a guy that was a top prospect in Olt that had dropped in value due to eye issues.

 

I'd say the Cubs would want Bundy, Rodriguez and another two pieces (Norris and a C- prospect).

Interesting outlook from Shark Week. I had no idea.

 

And good point about comparing a possible trade to Garza. I immediately jumped to Wieters being a part of the deal, but maybe that's just my bias showing through. I would consider a Wieters/Rodiguez/+ for Smardjzziksdgia

 

EDIT: Primary Cubs catcher Welington Castillo (a great mix of lacrosse first name and baseball last name) has been worth 0.6 fWAR this season, 11th out of 12 qualifying catchers. 

[SportsGuy]

Cant trade Gaus or Bundy for him IMO.

 

He isn't good enough.

 

Although, if you think Gaus is never going to make it as a starter or Bundy isn't going to be healthy, you think harder about it.

 

Would rather trade them for a better player with my control though.

[dude]

I like Smaerdgha, but I don't get the upgrade now at the expense of one of your top pitching prospects.

 

It causes you to lose all value of a guy like Norris or Miguel Gonzalez when you replace them and put them in the pen and for a team that doesn't have draft picks this year and doesn't seem to know how to add young players.....how can they compete after 2015 with no real plan to acquire players.

 

I'd rather build a deal around a guy like Tillman, give the Cubs the cost and service control and take the better certainty out of that spot today.....use him as a bridge to Harvey......and take the draft pick after the 2015 season.

 

If we're looking at the Cubs.....I'd want to consider Mike Olt and International Pool slots in the package.

[Coker]

We're built for the next two years, and I definitely think a trade for that guy would help. However, we can't punt the future since we have a pretty big void of prospects outside of Bundy, Gausman, Harvey and Rodriguez. 

With Markakis, Wieters, Davis, Cruz coming off the books within the next 1-2 years, we could certainly afford Smardijasijzza - but would the O's FO be willing to give a(nother) big contract to a 31 year old pitcher? In good news, he certainly doesn't have the wear and tear on his arm like others. 

 

[bnickle]

I'm ready to trade Bundy. Shop him and take the best deal that helps you for now and the future.

If its JS, I'm fine with that.

[Matt_P]

The other thing is that at the moment we're likely to offer a QO to Cruz and Hardy and will likely get picks for both of them. We may not be getting many picks this year but we'll be able to add a good bit of talent in next years draft.

[SammyBirdland]

I wonder if the O's still consider Bundy to be untouchable, now that he is post-TJ surgery.   I don't know if they came out and said it before, but he's been untouchable to this point.

 

My gut tells me Samargeezuh is not the right guy to leverage Bundy for.  

[BSLChrisStoner]

There is no way I'd consider giving up Bundy's years of future control for 1.5 year's of JS.

[Russ]

The other thing is that at the moment we're likely to offer a QO to Cruz and Hardy and will likely get picks for both of them. We may not be getting many picks this year but we'll be able to add a good bit of talent in next years draft.

I'll say yes to Cruz, and a maybe to Hardy for QOs. I'm concerned about this team going forward. After 2015, we have Jones and Manny, hopefully Bundy and Gausman, and a bunch of bit players. 2016-2018 might be a rebuild. Might as well go for it now.

[bnickle]

There is no way I'd consider giving up Bundy's years of future control for 1.5 year's of JS.

Bundy now has injury concerns.

You do your homework on his value. If he can be a frontline piece fir a Stanton you'd be better off using him there.If JS is his value, you pull the trigger.

[SammyBirdland]

There is no way I'd consider giving up Bundy's years of future control for 1.5 year's of JS.

 

Hypothetically, would you trade Bundy for 5 years of Smiracha?

[You Play to Win the Game]

There is no way I'd consider giving up Bundy's years of future control for 1.5 year's of JS.

Bundy now has injury concerns.


You do your homework on his value. If he can be a frontline piece fir a Stanton you'd be better off using him there.If JS is his value, you pull the trigger.

He's gotten his "injury concern" addressed. It's not like he has shoulder issues. With pitchers these days, Tommy John is more a matter of when, not if. So I don't think this is a particularly fair summation of Bundy. And it'd be selling low on a legit prospect. I'd obviously do it for Stanton, but not a guy like JS.