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[bnickle]

No they are two separate things, if the Jaguars route the Ravens in Baltimore, it's not a choke job. It's a big upset.

No, its a choke job that caused the upset.

[Oriole85]

No, its a choke job that caused the upset.

You're just wrong.

 

From Urban Dictionary:

When you completely melt down and blow a game or match that you were about to win. This can also mean when one player or team is dominating a competition until the play poorly to let the opponent back in the game.

[BSLMikeLowe]

I usually consider blowing a comfortable lead more of a choke job. As for an inferior team beating a better one, I mostly call that an upset....but depending on how things unfold I guess you could call it a choke too. I mentioned the two heavyweight title fights earlier. In both instances the champion was the heavy favorite and should have won, but in both instances he just flat out took the challenger way too lightly and did not prepare....so to me that's more of a choke.

[Oriole85]

I usually consider blowing a comfortable lead more of a choke job. As for an inferior team beating a better one, I mostly call that an upset....but depending on how things unfold I guess you could call it a choke too. I mentioned the two heavyweight title fights earlier. In both instances the champion was the heavy favorite and should have won, but in both instances he just flat out took the challenger way too lightly and did not prepare....so to me that's more of a choke.

I think it can be a "choke job" but it's not necessarily a choke job. Going with the Ravens/Jags example, the Ravens have a 21-7 lead with 7 minutes left and lose, that fits that more than if they were playing the Broncos and lost IMO.

 

I think it's a bit different in individual sports also. I don't care or know enough about boxing to talk intelligently here so I'll refrain.

[bnickle]

LOL.

 

 

I don't know what to tell you. If one side can play their C game and beat their opposition playing their A+ game and they still fail to win because they bring their F game that is a choke job.

 

 

What, you can't choke before a game starts or at the beginning of a game. You have to be a certain way in for us to qualify a team as choking.

 

Get out of here with this stuff. You've never seen a team come out of the gates not looking the same, looking tight, etc. They're freaking choking from the outset, before the game even starts.

[mweb08]

The thing about the Sox- Mets is that the two deciding moments back to back were clearly on the Sox. Most of the time when we call a choke job it's often the other team also doing their job, or at least something, that gets them over the hump.
Now, granted, the Mets got 3 hits in a row but the tying and winning runs were totally and completely on the Sox.

That's a big point.

In my mind, the Bills aren't chokers because they lost four consecutive Super Bowls. In the last two, they were clearly the inferior team (and who knows what was up with the one against Washington). But Scott Norwood choked when he went wide-right against the Giants.

What do you mean who knows with the game against Washington? That Skins team was historically great.

[You Play to Win the Game]

What do you mean who knows with the game against Washington? That Skins team was historically great.

In Redskins history?

[BSLMikeLowe]

In Redskins history?

 

I think that team set an NFL record (that has since been broken) for points scored in a season.

[Oriole85]

What do you mean who knows with the game against Washington? That Skins team was historically great.

Weber you're a bigger Skins fan than I am so you know more here, apparently the Skins were a 7 point favorite against the Bills.

[mweb08]

What do you mean who knows with the game against Washington? That Skins team was historically great.

In Redskins history?

In NFL history. That was a dominant team. They are easily forgotten or minimized though because they weren't superstar driven and it was just that one year of greatness.

[mweb08]

I don't want to derail the thread here, but just to back up what I said. That Skins team lost in their 12th game to the Cowboys by 3, otherwise they only lost their last game of the season, which they didn't really care about. They averaged 30.3 pts/game (1st) and gave up 14 (2nd). They won their 3 playoff games by a combined score of 102-41 and that's with giving up 2 late TD's in the Bills game to make that game look way closer than it was (led 24-0, and 37-10, but final was 37-24).

[Pedro Cerrano]

I don't want to derail the thread here, but just to back up what I said. That Skins team lost in their 12th game to the Cowboys be 3, otherwise they only lost their last game of the season, which they didn't really care about. They averaged 30.3 pts/game (1st) and gave up 14 (2nd). They won their 3 playoff games by a combined score of 102-41 and that's with giving up 2 late TD's in the Bills game to make that game look way closer than it was (led 24-0, and 37-10, but final was 37-24).

 

Yea, they were really good.  Who are you trying to convince?

[You Play to Win the Game]

Yea, they were really good.  Who are you trying to convince?

 

I think me... I was pulling his leg earlier when he said they were historically good, and I asked if he meant that in terms of Redskins history.

[DJ MC]

In NFL history. That was a dominant team. They are easily forgotten or minimized though because they weren't superstar driven and it was just that one year of greatness.

 

Which is exactly what I was thinking. No issue with being wrong; in fact, that just makes my point further.

[mweb08]

In NFL history. That was a dominant team. They are easily forgotten or minimized though because they weren't superstar driven and it was just that one year of greatness.

 
Which is exactly what I was thinking. No issue with being wrong; in fact, that just makes my point further.

Indeed it does.

[The Epic]

Bump.

 

Falcons/Pats?

[NewMarketSean]

Bump.

Falcons/Pats?

Has to be. For a single play, Seattle/NE too for that boneheaded decision to pass on first and goal. Wisconsin choking away the title to Duke is up there too.

[SportsGuy]

Btw...I don’t think most people actually know what choking really is.

It’s a term easily thrown around but often, used incorrectly.

[Mackus]

Been thinking about golf a lot lately so....

Norman at the Masters
Van de Velde at the British
Mickelson at the US Open

[bnickle]

Van de Velde was a huge choke job