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[bnickle]

The later and bigger, I think that fits more of a choke job.

 

 

 

I mean halftime anything can happen. in regards to the Final FOur game or the Bills Oilers game. If one team can  get out to that big a lead in one half, the other team can do the same in another half.

 

 

 

The other thing is when there is a lot of time on the clock and one team has a huge lead it's natural and unintentional for refs to be more merciful on the losing team. That's over all sports. The team losing might get a really tick tack mercy call while the team with the big lead wont get the same call. That often can be a catalyst or a least play a small part in a big comeback, at least initially.

[DJ MC]

How about Boldin's drop against Pittsburgh in the '10 divisional round?

 

Evans in 2011 is interesting, because that involved a nice play by the defender. And, of course, Cundiff choked.

[DJ MC]

Also, Jean van de Velde.

 

Rick Reilly's column in the aftermath might be my favorite thing he's ever written.

[Oriole85]

That's a big point.

 

In my mind, the Bills aren't chokers because they lost four consecutive Super Bowls. In the last two, they were clearly the inferior team (and who knows what was up with the one against Washington). But Scott Norwood choked when he went wide-right against the Giants.

It was a 47 yard field goal attempt, it was a critical miss but I don't think I'd call it a choke.

[Oriole85]

The later and bigger, I think that fits more of a choke job.

 

 

 

I mean halftime anything can happen. in regards to the Final FOur game or the Bills Oilers game. If one team can  get out to that big a lead in one half, the other team can do the same in another half.

You still shouldn't be giving up enormous leads.

[bnickle]

Again, if two evenly matched teams or lets say one that is a little inferior, gets out to a huge lead it tells me the other team can do the opposite in the same amount of time as the lead was built.

 

 

 

We also need to look at not just necessarily a big lead blown within the game as the biggest choke job. What about a superior team losing or losing emphatically to an inferior team. Russia-USA Miracle on Ice for example. Colts losing to the Jets in '69.

 

 

 

Games where when you look back you still believe that if the teams played 10 times the team that lost would win 8 or 9 times out of 10.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Tyson/Douglas in 1990 and Lewis/Rahman in 2001. Although in both instances you could say the champ had probably lost that fight before he even entered the ring.

[Oriole85]

Again, if two evenly matched teams or lets say one that is a little inferior, gets out to a huge lead it tells me the other team can do the opposite in the same amount of time as the lead was built.

Yeah sure it CAN happen, it's NOT LIKELY to happen. If the Ravens get off to a 31-0 lead against the Broncos, they could potentially lose the game, the odds aren't likely.

[Dupin]

We also need to look at not just necessarily a big lead blown within the game as the biggest choke job. What about a superior team losing or losing emphatically to an inferior team. Russia-USA Miracle on Ice for example. Colts losing to the Jets in '69.



Games where when you look back you still believe that if the teams played 10 times the team that lost would win 8 or 9 times out of 10.

The 2007 Patriots choked in that Super Bowl, by this definition.

[Oriole85]

The 2007 Patriots choked in that Super Bowl, by this definition.

I don't think a superior team losing to an inferior team is necessarily a choke job, that's an upset.

[You Play to Win the Game]

The 2007 Patriots choked in that Super Bowl, by this definition.

 

Or the Ravens beating Denver last year.

[Oriole85]

Or the Ravens beating Denver last year.

I posted this same thing in the Colorado based forum I'm on and that was a popular choice.

[Mackus]

Latrell Sprewell?

[Adam Wolff]

Recently, San Antonio's Game 6 choke in last year's finals was pretty bad. Up 5 with 28 seconds left.

[Oriole85]

Latrell Sprewell?

Winner!

[NewMarketSean]

The Bartman game in the 2003 NLCS.

[Oriole85]

Recently, San Antonio's Game 6 choke in last year's finals was pretty bad. Up 5 with 28 seconds left.

Yep I agree and so do the Heat fans.

 

[BSLMikeLowe]

Greg Norman, early to mid 1990's. You could pick a number of majors where he choked, but the 1996 Masters probably stands out as the worst. He started the final round with a 6-stroke lead, shot a 78, and lost to Nick Faldo by 5 strokes.

[bnickle]

I don't think a superior team losing to an inferior team is necessarily a choke job, that's an upset.

Tomato-toemato.

[Oriole85]

Tomato-toemato.

No they are two separate things, if the Jaguars route the Ravens in Baltimore, it's not a choke job. It's a big upset.