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[mweb08]

The thing about complaining about student- athletes being selfish is that in of itself is a selfish complaint. Like you just want the college sports product to be the way you want it to be without regard to the athletes.

[BSLMikeLowe]

The thing about complaining about student- athletes being selfish is that in of itself is a selfish complaint. Like you just want the college sports product to be the way you want it to be without regard to the athletes.

Or the law. I so often get the impression from peoples’ comments about the current state of college sports (and not just on here) that not many of them really understand how and why we got here, and who is largely responsible for that. The players have NEVER had a say in what the rules are.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Or the law. I so often get the impression from peoples’ comments about the current state of college sports (and not just on here) that not many of them really understand how and why we got here, and who is largely responsible for that. The players have NEVER had a say in what the rules are.

Yep, this is worth mentioning with regularity. Players rightfully asking to get paid does not mean they are the ones responsible for this mess.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Yep, this is worth mentioning with regularity. Players rightfully asking to get paid does not mean they are the ones responsible for this mess.

And players moving from one job (school) to another for more money with regularity, when the system permits them to do so, is by no means exclusive to college athletics. How many people moaning about the star QB on their favorite team hitting the transfer portal after one season would leave their own job on an annual basis in a heartbeat if there was another job waiting for them that paid more?

[glenn__davis]

Or the law. I so often get the impression from peoples’ comments about the current state of college sports (and not just on here) that not many of them really understand how and why we got here, and who is largely responsible for that. The players have NEVER had a say in what the rules are.

 

I don't really think anyone on here is saying otherwise.  I'm certainly in favor of the players getting theirs, I just question long term how that will ultimately affect the popularity of the sport(s).  

 

The argument reminds me a bit of an OP-ED I read about healthcare.  Nobody thinks the system is good but it didn't get there overnight.  A series of decisions over many years led to a point where there really is no good solution.

[BSLMikeLowe]

I don't really think anyone on here is saying otherwise.  I'm certainly in favor of the players getting theirs, I just question long term how that will ultimately affect the popularity of the sport(s).  

 

The argument reminds me a bit of an OP-ED I read about healthcare.  Nobody thinks the system is good but it didn't get there overnight.  A series of decisions over many years led to a point where there really is no good solution.

 

I agree that the chaos could do harm to fan support over the long term. I hope the powers-that-be recognize that. I really do believe the answer is to just embrace the professionalization of college sports (just the revenue sports at the highest levels) and collectively bargain with the players on how revenues are shared, how much, while also contractually binding players to their school for more than one season.

 

I know a lot of people don't like that idea, as it's not the version of college sports we've long idealized. And schools that have long been part of the bigger ecosystem will probably get left out. But it works for the professional leagues, and I think people will get used to it over time. It sure couldn't be any bigger a mess than we have now, and it's not going to make the court dockets take up more reading space than the box scores.

[JeremyStrain]

I don't really think anyone on here is saying otherwise.  I'm certainly in favor of the players getting theirs, I just question long term how that will ultimately affect the popularity of the sport(s).  

 

The argument reminds me a bit of an OP-ED I read about healthcare.  Nobody thinks the system is good but it didn't get there overnight.  A series of decisions over many years led to a point where there really is no good solution.

Yep, that's kind of the problem. It's a big and complicated enough issue that there's no quick fix. It's going to take a long time and trial and error to really make it work.

[BSLMikeLowe]

ESPN: Dept. of Education says Title IX applies to payments to athletes

 

Well that's potentially a fly in the ointment, as it sounds like many/most schools intend to devote most of their revenue sharing with the revenue sports athletes. Of course who knows if the DoE will hold the same opinion come next week?

 

To no surprise, the new administration has rescinded the DoE memo saying Title IX rules applied to revenue sharing. That removes what could have been a major hurdle to the final settlement in the House v NCAA case.