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#21 mweb08

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:49 PM

Did Trout retire? :lol:

 

Haha



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:49 PM

Machado lines into RCF.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:51 PM

Nick just beats out a would be double play ball.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:51 PM

He was definitely not even on 2B... should have been safe at 2nd for sure.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:51 PM

He wasn't anywhere near the bag. What a joke it is. 



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:51 PM

How do the Orioles get a break on that one Thorne? Terrible.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:53 PM

Jones chases up, and misses. To the 2nd.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

I wonder if it would make sense to have an organizational philosophy to have a heavy groundball staff with an exceptional infield defense while sacrificing offense where need be to make that happen (don't need to with Manny). 



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:57 PM

Wieters caught Gausman's other 2 games. Surprised they'd have a new catcher in for the rookie, when they could've rested Wieters yesterday all the same. I guess the O's just don't think it's all that important, which I would agree. Interesting nevertheless. On the bright side, 2 days rest will be nice for Wieters, which was probably the thing that made the Orioles do this.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

Fielder down swinging to start the 2nd.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

I wonder if it would make sense to have an organizational philosophy to have a heavy groundball staff with an exceptional infield defense while sacrificing offense where need be to make that happen (don't need to with Manny). 

 

I'd dig it. I know the SwStr K/9 #'s are more sexy, but I love ground balls. They're efficient, can erase a base runner at times, etc. Not sure you'd really need to have a philosophy, per se, I think every pitcher, even if they can miss bats with great stuff, should have pitches added to their repertoire to generate ground balls, and the goal should be to have really good defensive infielders anyway, and I think we've seen them sacrifice offense at 2B and be perfectly OK with it given the glove.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:00 PM

Pitch F/X called that 2nd pitch of this AB a Forkball... interesting.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:02 PM

I'd dig it. I know the SwStr K/9 #'s are more sexy, but I love ground balls. They're efficient, can erase a base runner at times, etc. Not sure you'd really need to have a philosophy, per se, I think every pitcher, even if they can miss bats with great stuff, should have pitches added to their repertoire to generate ground balls, and the goal should be to have really good defensive infielders anyway, and I think we've seen them sacrifice offense at 2B and be perfectly OK with it given the glove.

 

Yeah, groundball pitchers and great infield defense are big positives anyway. My point is if you can really emphasize both of those, you can see more significant returns on the investments on those players.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:02 PM

Yeah, groundball pitchers and great infield defense are big positives anyway. My point is if you can really emphasize both of those, you can see more significant returns on the investments on those players.

 

Agreed. Some would have a fit because their periphs would suggest they allow too much contact/don't miss enough bats.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:02 PM

Martinez to Manny against the shift. 2 out.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:02 PM

Pitch F/X called that 2nd pitch of this AB a Forkball... interesting.

 

Yeah, since he doesn't throw one. It was a change if I recall right. What was the velocity? Low to mid 80's?



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:03 PM

Yeah, since he doesn't throw one. It was a change if I recall right. What was the velocity? Low to mid 80's?

 

I think like 84. 



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

Agreed. Some would have a fit because their periphs would suggest they allow too much contact/don't miss enough bats.

 

Well the idea would be to go get guys like Porcello that are groundball pitchers, not so much to totally change how guys pitch. If guys like Porcello, Britton, etc are pitching well, they'll get tons of grounders but still a fair amount of K's.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

I think like 84. 

 

Yeah, change. I think he throws his change with a forkball like grip, though.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:05 PM

Loved Snyder trying to sell that.






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