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[Stotle]

Health and 130 innings or so. Best case, June call-up next year. Mid-road, September 2013 cup of coffee or 2014 breaks camp with club. "Things haven't gone as planned" route, not up by mid-2014.

[SportsGuy]

1) Health
2) Dominate lower levels of minors and end up in AA.

[Can_of_corn]

I think the biggest things is slowly but steadily increasing his IP.

Remember, he only threw 70 innings last year.

Ideally I'd have him:
2012 - Delmarva / Frederick: 100 - 125 IP
2013 - Frederick / Bowie / MLB: 125 - 150 IP
2014 - Bowie / Norfolk / MLB: 150 - 175 IP
2015 - MLB: 200 IP

You would take a kid that was touted as being college level polished and let him sit in the minors until the current core is expensive and just about to leave? Under your scenario he will have one year with Matusz and Wieters under contract.

[JeffLong]

I think the biggest things is slowly but steadily increasing his IP.

Remember, he only threw 70 innings last year.

Ideally I'd have him:
2012 - Delmarva / Frederick: 100 - 125 IP
2013 - Frederick / Bowie / MLB: 125 - 150 IP
2014 - Bowie / Norfolk / MLB: 150 - 175 IP
2015 - MLB: 200 IP

You would take a kid that was touted as being college level polished and let him sit in the minors until the current core is expensive and just about to leave? Under your scenario he will have one year with Matusz and Wieters under contract.

I should have clarified. I don't necessarily want to see him in all the levels listed each year. The first and last ones are the best and worst case scenarios. So if he came up say halfway through 2014, that'd be worst case scenario.

Also, I'm not huge on AAA. More and more top prospects have been going from AA to MLB so Norfolk is just kind of thrown in there. I'd like to seem him in MLB in 2014, but on a pitching limit of no more than 170 innings (at the very most).

[Can_of_corn]

OK that makes a lot more sense to me. I still want to be as aggressive as his talent will allow. (After giving him a full season this year to acclimate).

Considering the amount of names the O's have in the mix for Low A I definitely think starting him at High A is the best call for multiple reasons.

[Luke Jackson]

I'm sure I've already posted on this thread, but to sum up my thoughts on "What do you want to see from D. Bundy in '12?"...it would be the word HEALTH. Get through the first pro season (120 innings?) healthy with your stuff intact throughout the year.

[Luke Jackson]

OK that makes a lot more sense to me. I still want to be as aggressive as his talent will allow. (After giving him a full season this year to acclimate).

Considering the amount of names the O's have in the mix for Low A I definitely think starting him at High A is the best call for multiple reasons.

I think Bundy starts in Delmarva. That rotation's 1-2-3 could begin as Dylan, Parker Bridwell and Mike Wright. That'd be the rotation to watch in the system. One phenomenal talent, one very good talent and another arm we all saw Sunday night that we liked quite a bit in Wright.

[Can_of_corn]

OK that makes a lot more sense to me. I still want to be as aggressive as his talent will allow. (After giving him a full season this year to acclimate).

Considering the amount of names the O's have in the mix for Low A I definitely think starting him at High A is the best call for multiple reasons.

I think Bundy starts in Delmarva. That rotation's 1-2-3 could begin as Dylan, Parker Bridwell and Mike Wright. That'd be the rotation to watch in the system. One phenomenal talent, one very good talent and another arm we all saw Sunday night that we liked quite a bit in Wright.

Please no on Wright. Wright has a very good chance to contribute in a Major League Bullpen as early as this season. He has a minimal chance of being a backend of the rotation starter in the majors in a few years.

[Luke Jackson]

Wright is being developed as a starter.

[Can_of_corn]

Wright is being developed as a starter.

Anyone care to make a list of the 3rd round college pitchers that signed for slot and became a successful starter in the majors?

Yes I know they can have him start now and when he crashes and burns in AA or AAA they can convert him then. They can also have a guy ready to contribute at the big league level next spring.

But sure go spend millions on Gregg, or Gonzo, or Walker, or Baez, or Bradford.

That has worked out so well in the past.

[JeremyStrain]

Wright is being developed as a starter.

He won't stay there. He's no MLB player as a SP, but has a lot of value as a RP. In typical O's fashion they will try him as a SP probably a little bit too long, get discouraged he can't stick in the ML as a SP and then cut him instead of moving him to the pen.

[Oriole85]

I don't want to have too low expectations but at the same time, we've seen too many of these players not pan out. I just hope he stays healthy and has a good learning experience in the minors. No reason to rush him, this team isn't "one player" away from contending.

[Mackus]

No arm injuries is enough for me to call it a win.

Obviously would prefer to see a dominant performance from him, but as long as he's healthy at the end of the season he'll still be considered a major asset for the organization moving forward.

[Can_of_corn]

I don't want to have too low expectations but at the same time, we've seen too many of these players not pan out. I just hope he stays healthy and has a good learning experience in the minors. No reason to rush him, this team isn't "one player" away from contending.

Except there are a couple really good reasons to rush him. The Wieters window is closing. I don't know of anyone that thinks he will extend here and it would be nice if they could put an actual decent team around him at some point. The other issue is, as I have mentioned before, the ML contract that Bundy signed that, if he is promoted aggressively enough, will eliminate a couple of his arbitration years.

[Kevin Ebert]

I guess we were all thinking about Dylan Bundy after it was announced he's starting the season in Delmarva. I analyzed when I think he'll be with the Orioles based on how long it took other high 1st round high school pitchers to make the majors. Guys like Kershaw and Homer Bailey are included. Here's the link:

http://eutawstreetbl... ... rrive.html

Let me know what you think.

[BSLChrisStoner]

I guess we were all thinking about Dylan Bundy after it was announced he's starting the season in Delmarva. I analyzed when I think he'll be with the Orioles based on how long it took other high 1st round high school pitchers to make the majors. Guys like Kershaw and Homer Bailey are included. Here's the link:

http://eutawstreetbl...ndy-arrive.html

Let me know what you think.

Good read Kevin. I think you are right in saying that June '13 is the earliest we see him.

My guess is that he spends April and May at Delmarva, and June and July at Frederick. If he is not burned out, I could see him going to Bowie in August. My guess is that probably does not happen, but I think he starts '13 at Bowie. With a few months there, he will be on the verge of a call-up.

Guess that is getting ahead of things, but I'll be surprised if he is not up by September '13 at the latest.

[Can_of_corn]

I don't understand why they would put him in a 6 man rotation in Delmarva instead of just putting him Frederick. Does anyone think he is going to be challenged by the level of competition in low A?

[JeremyStrain]

I don't understand why they would put him in a 6 man rotation in Delmarva instead of just putting him Frederick. Does anyone think he is going to be challenged by the level of competition in low A?

They want to limit his innings in the early part of the season to keep him under 150 for the year. They'll give him like 8 starts or so in Delmarva and then move him to FRD on a 5 day rotation. I don't think he's going to be challenged TOO much until he hits AA and finds guys that can hit good secondaries.