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#241 SBTarheel

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:45 PM

Possibly, they might need him more than he needs them. As in they made the Tourney this year. Even if he bolts next year, they want to remain relevant especially for a non-football school.

 

Ok let's just say I think this is a bigger deal than you and Ricker do. My main gripe in all of this is his dishonesty which wasn't caught initially (which should've been) allowed him to get the job over qualified candidates who played by the rules.

Which ironically, is Ricker's main beef with the PED "issue"...

 

clearly, I just love cheaters and liars!


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, I think this is one of those things that gives schools/and jobs in general an opportunity to evaluate their black and white "standards"... while also setting an example that you really can't lie about that kind of stuff. But again, I just disagree that the standards are inconsequential. The guy was ambitious, believed he could get the job done, and DID get the job done. The job he never would have gotten if he didn't lie. A lie he'd never have to tell if it wasn't a requirement. A requirement that wouldn't be in place if organizations (colleges) had the balls to stand by their hire rather than be able to fall back and say, well, he had a good college education, it wasn't my fault he didn't pan out (AKA, most places require college degrees as a way to cover the ass of the hiring managers... true story).

Yeah he certainly was ambitious and a risk-taker too, so is someone who resists arrests. I'm just not OK with the "ends justifying the means" here. Why shouldn't he have had to finish his education like every other candidate? If not he should apply for the job as is and hope they overlook the requirement. I just can't get behind it was OK to lie in this case.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Maybe i missed this in the discussion, but what do the people at Manhattan have to say? I mean, someone in HR is going to get in trouble for not checking this originally, right?


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:52 PM

Maybe i missed this in the discussion, but what do the people at Manhattan have to say? I mean, someone in HR is going to get in trouble for not checking this originally, right?

He's under review there now. So something has to be forthcoming. It wasn't just at Manhattan, it was at Tulane/Louisville as well.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:57 PM

Which ironically, is Ricker's main beef with the PED "issue"...

 

clearly, I just love cheaters and liars!

 

While the logic is similar, I do think the specifics of both cases are apples to oranges... but that's another conversation.

 

BTW, love you dude... I KNEW this reference was coming once you joined this thread, lol.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:58 PM

He's under review there now. So something has to be forthcoming. It wasn't just at Manhattan, it was at Tulane/Louisville as well.

 

I'm just speaking in terms of their mistake, I should add. He may have lied on his resume (which I don't see as the same deal you do, but definitely is something that should at least re-open the position for a further search with him as a candidate if not lead to outright disqualification) but those places didn't do their due diligence.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:58 PM

Yeah he certainly was ambitious and a risk-taker too, so is someone who resists arrests. I'm just not OK with the "ends justifying the means" here. Why shouldn't he have had to finish his education like every other candidate? If not he should apply for the job as is and hope they overlook the requirement. I just can't get behind it was OK to lie in this case.

 

He broke the "rules" to go help a college make millions of bucks off of unpaid athletes. Yeah, the coach lying about a college education is the problem with the NCAA.

 

BTW, I'm kind of going into combative mode here to make my point, but I'll definitely acknowledge that what he did was wrong.



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

While the logic is similar, I do think the specifics of both cases are apples to oranges... but that's another conversation.

 

BTW, love you dude... I KNEW this reference was coming once you joined this thread, lol.

I aim to please!

 

It's not exactly cheating per se, but he might have gained an unfair advantage with the lie..


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:06 PM

I'm just speaking in terms of their mistake, I should add. He may have lied on his resume (which I don't see as the same deal you do, but definitely is something that should at least re-open the position for a further search with him as a candidate if not lead to outright disqualification) but those places didn't do their due diligence.

Those places are to blame for not properly vetting.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:06 PM

I aim to please!

 

It's not exactly cheating per se, but he might have gained an unfair advantage with the lie..

Yeah... I'm trying to wrap my head around how they're different, but they might not be that different of situations... I'm drawing a blank here... you might have me. Damn.



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:07 PM

Yeah... I'm trying to wrap my head around how they're different, but they might not be that different of situations... I'm drawing a blank here... you might have me. Damn.

I agree with you on this, so maybe you should just agree with me now on the PED thingy...

 

It's easier that way.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:09 PM

I agree with you on this, so maybe you should just agree with me now on the PED thingy...

 

It's easier that way.

I'll consider it.



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:10 PM

I'll consider it.

This would be my greatest victory!!!!!!


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:11 PM

This would be my greatest victory!!!!!!

You helped open my mind with politics over the last few years on the FB. That should be up there, no?



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:15 PM

You helped open my mind with politics over the last few years on the FB. That should be up there, no?

That's pretty big, no doubt!


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:59 PM

ESPNManhattan: Steve Masiello on leave

 

Hall of Fame coach Jim Calhoun, who won three national titles at Connecticut, told ESPNNewYork.com's Ian O'Connor that Manhattan should take back Masiello.

 

"I'd take him back," Calhoun said. "We have a semi-parallel situation at Rutgers, where (Eddie Jordan) didn't have his degree, and they kept him. Why did they hire him in the first place? Why was Manhattan going to extend their offer to Coach Masiello? Because they want him. ... So, he's the same guy he was before, and he made an error on his resume, and he's going to have to fix that up and get his degree, I'm sure. But I would take him back in a heartbeat."

Atleast he has Jim Calhoun's blessing.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:13 PM

ESPNManhattan: Steve Masiello on leave

 

Atleast he has Jim Calhoun's blessing.

 

To be fair to Calhoun, he didn't graduate from Kentucky, either.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:26 PM

ESPNManhattan: Steve Masiello on leave

 

Atleast he has Jim Calhoun's blessing.

Quite the endorsement...Oy.

 

I still think Manhattan takes him back.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:41 PM

Quite the endorsement...Oy.

 

I still think Manhattan takes him back.

It's like the Bin Laden SNL skit where the candidates wanted him to endorse the "other guy."


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 10:31 PM

CBS SportsJim Calhoun on Boston College job: 'I'm not interested'

 

I don't blame him. It's going to take a few years just to get that program on its feet after the disaster Gary Williams left behind in 1986.


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