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Poll: Overall, how would you grade the O's draft? (11 member(s) have cast votes)

Overall, how would you grade the O's draft?

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#1 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 05:29 PM

Orioles Nation: http://orioles-natio...raft-prospects/

Orioles Nation's Don Olsen early draft watch list, posted back in October.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:22 AM

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

Baseball America: Top 100 Prospects as of Feb 2nd
http://www.baseballa...12/2612884.html

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:29 PM

Jason Churchill's top 25 is towards the bottom of this link: http://prospectinsid...-draft-preview/

According to BA, the Orioles will have about $6.8M to spend on their first 10 rounds http://www.baseballa... ... nus-pools/ Teams can't decide not to sign players in their top 10 in order to save money for other top 10 picks -- an unsigned pick means you get the pick value subtracted from your total top 10 round allocation. If the Orioles don't mind paying a tax to MLB, they can pay their top 10 round picks a total of ~ $7.14M. With the Orioles having the fourth pick...I can easily see half or maybe a little more than half of the top 10 round allocation being committed to their first rounder.

Any way you look at it, this system will probably suck. Amateur players lose money because some owners wanted to pocket a relatively small amount of cash (Jerry Reinsdorf was the one who pushed for this crap system). With this kind of system, it just makes it harder for the Orioles to add cheap talent. Teams can't go the way of the Royals, Pirates and Nationals and go crazy adding talent. Even the Orioles exploited the former system to a smaller extent -- strong college leans that aren't elite talents (like Nicky Delmonico) will almost certainly go to college now. That $1.5M bonus for Delmonico just doesn't happen with this system. But the top guys should still get paid, just not as much. It's the middle guys that will probably go to college more than they were before, and the NCAA will benefit. And as we know, any system that has the NCAA benefiting is an inherently crappy system. Multi-sport guys will have less incentive to choose baseball out of high school now, and for a sport that should be encouraging athletes to choose baseball over football and basketball, this is a step in the wrong direction.

I do look forward to Scott Boras and other agents finding loopholes in this system. It will be grand entertainment.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

As a reference point, the O's spent $7,282,400 last summer on the first 10 rounds (according to BA), and that was with a relatively low bonus money amount directed towards Bundy because of the big league deal.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:40 PM

Does this mean we could potentially find more over slot prospects beyond the 10th round?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:53 AM

http://www.baseballa... ... 12998.html

10 Dylan Bundy rhp, Orioles Age: 19. ETA: 2013.
First goal: Beat big brother Bobby to Baltimore. Next: Make the Orioles relevant.
11 Manny Machado ss, Orioles Age: 19. ETA: 2013
Power-hitting shortstop can restore honor to the phrase "Manny being Manny."
82 Jonathan Schoop inf, Orioles Age: 20. ETA: 2014.
His power potential and infield actions are far beyond his brother Sharlon's.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:04 AM

Good to see Schoop making it onto all of these lists.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:32 AM

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:29 PM

I see that Parker Bridwell broke into the top 150. I have not seen him pitch and his stats at Aberdeen and Delmarva aren't stellar. Does anyone out there have any insight on him?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:35 PM

I see that Parker Bridwell broke into the top 150. I have not seen him pitch and his stats at Aberdeen and Delmarva aren't stellar. Does anyone out there have any insight on him?


We just posted a new Q&A with Jim Callis from Baseball America; but when we previously interviewed Callis in October we asked about Bridwell:

Baltimore Sports and Life:
“The O’s are excited about the arm of 20 year-old RHP Parker Bridwell. Bridwell was hit around pretty well at Delmarva, posting an era over 7 in his five starts. Between Aberdeen, and Frederick he had 71.1 ip, allowing 79 hits, 35 bb’s, with 70 k’s. Your thoughts on him?”

Callis: “Bridwell is one of the more interesting prospects in the system, and he ranked 10th on our NY-P Top 20. He’s very athletic, has a heavy sinker and a hard breaking ball. In time, he could develop into a guy with two plus pitches and an average changeup, maybe become a good No. 3 starter.”

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:00 PM

Good to see Schoop making it onto all of these lists.


He didn't make the MLB.com list. (they had only one 2B on their list)

Well I hear Linda Ronstadt is looking for a guitar player.


#13 E_Walker

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

Good athlete, saw him play basketball for Gilman on Sunday. Definitely will benefit from college ball. I wouldn't be surprised if the Orioles spend a pick on him, though, as a ceremonial gesture.Would be a little nod to Cal given his importance to organization, and it should turn out to be one of those occurences where the other 31 teams let him fall to the O's, who don't pursue the signing. Just my thought.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:49 AM

I see that Parker Bridwell broke into the top 150. I have not seen him pitch and his stats at Aberdeen and Delmarva aren't stellar. Does anyone out there have any insight on him?


My dad and I have a nine-game plan to Aberdeen. I would not pay any attention at all to New York Penn League stats and I wouldn't pay a whole lot more attention to Sally League stats. With how raw the game is at the NYPL level, if you're a player and you do SOMETHING (ANYTHING) well, you'll stand out. Plus range in the outfield? Fast on the basepaths? Have a nice sinker? Spin a curve? Hit multiple line drives in a game? You'll stand out. I got to see Bridwell twice. Bridwell fits the bill of a player who stood out because he did some things well without being spectacular.

Personally, I think Bridwell is a really good prospect. Classic projectable right-handed pitcher -- like 6-3 or 6-4 and maybe 180 pounds soaking wet. Fastball works in the low 90s with a lot of sink. Slider is a knockout pitch when it's working, and I've seen it when it's working. I saw him get nine strikeouts in five innings when his slider was on. Changeup...is about what you would expect it to be for a 20-year-old who just started baseball full-time 18 months ago. If the changeup becomes a workable pitch, he has a good chance to pitch in Camden Yards as a starter provided good health. If he doesn't...probably a reliever. His command is iffy but his delivery seemed smooth to me.

FWIW, Glynn Davis was really the only other guy that stood out. I didn't get a chance to see Eduardo Rodriguez in his lone Aberdeen start but I hope to see him this coming year a time or two.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:01 AM

Next year should be much more interesting for the O's. I'm almost more interested in following the minors this year than then big league club.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:11 AM

Does this mean we could potentially find more over slot prospects beyond the 10th round?


No, all big overslots from rounds 11 on down get allocated to that top 10 round bonus pool. I think the threshold is 100 K. So take Zach Davies for example. The O's signed him last year for like 550K in the 26th round or so out of high school. That 550K this year would be pushed to the top 10 round allocation the Orioles have. The Orioles would have $6.8M to sign 11 players instead of 10.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:31 AM

Goldstein and Parks talked about ceremonial draft picks on their last podcast. It's not just coincidence that orgs draft common last names, especially if those names are still involved with the org in some way. It's purposeful politicking.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:44 AM

Goldstein and Parks talked about ceremonial draft picks on their last podcast. It's not just coincidence that orgs draft common last names, especially if those names are still involved with the org in some way. It's purposeful politicking.


He's still got some work to do, no doubt, but after a couple years in college, he will be a worthy mid round draft pick I think. He's got some tools, you can see them in there some where, but I think you are right in some degree that they'll spend a lower rd pick on him this year and he goes to college.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:58 AM

Next year should be much more interesting for the O's. I'm almost more interested in following the minors this year than then big league club.

Well knowing the club isn't going anywhere, the minors atleast gives you hope. Don't you think you are alone in your thoughts. I haven't seen a minor league game in person in like a decade, I used to go to Frederick all the time and saw Hammonds rehab at Bowie(and got his autograph after the game).
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:32 PM

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