Rutschman, Cowser, Westburg, Holliday, and Rodriguez?

What's The 2025 Ceiling & Floor For?
#2
Posted 04 February 2025 - 05:22 PM
Rutschman: 2 - 8 WAR
Cowser: 1.5 - 5 WAR
Westburg: 2 - 5 WAR
Holliday: 1.5 - 4 WAR
Rodriguez: 0 - 4 WAR
#3
Posted 04 February 2025 - 05:28 PM
I think last year is as bad as it can get for Adley and he still put up 3.4 rWAR
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#4
Posted 04 February 2025 - 05:34 PM
Rutschman: 3.5 - 7 WAR
Cowser: 2 - 5 WAR
Westburg: 2 - 5 WAR
Holliday: 2 - 5 WAR
Rodriguez: 1.5 - 4 WAR
#5
Posted 04 February 2025 - 06:03 PM
I think last year is as bad as it can get for Adley and he still put up 3.4 rWAR
June thru September is as bad as it can get. If he does the same all year, then I think he bottoms out around 2.
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#6
Posted 05 February 2025 - 12:15 PM
Cowser: 2-5 WAR
Westburg: 2.5-6 WAR
Holliday: -1-7 WAR
Rodriguez: 1.5-4.8 WAR
#7
Posted 05 February 2025 - 12:24 PM
June thru September is as bad as it can get. If he does the same all year, then I think he bottoms out around 2.
I guess we'll find out soon enough if he was in fact, hiding an injury that was significantly affecting his hitting. If it was just him sucking as a hitter, then Houston, we've got a problem.
#8
Posted 05 February 2025 - 12:41 PM
I guess we'll find out soon enough if he was in fact, hiding an injury that was significantly affecting his hitting. If it was just him sucking as a hitter, then Houston, we've got a problem.
Meh, guys have ups and downs even unrelated to injury all the time. Vlad Jr has gone 166, 116, 133, 167 in OPS+ the past 4 years. Matt Olson has gone 118, 164, 120, 153, 103 the past 5. Adley falling from 131 and 128 to 107 last year isn't inherently scary, even with the total bottom out in the second half. I mean, I wish it didn't happen and I'd be more confident in his 2025 if it hadn't, but I'm trying not to dwell too much on the negative and the understanding that sometimes guys just have big valleys for seemingly no reason helps the mindset. It does make you reconsider the floor for a guy when they have their worst season ever, similar to how you're reconsider the ceiling after a career best year.
Hopefully Adley's bounceback doesn't coincide with an unexpected struggle-fest season from Gunnar or some other bad result.
#9
Posted 05 February 2025 - 12:49 PM
It wasn't even a bad year, just an incredibly terrible half. .300/.351/.479 through game 81, .189/.279/.280 from 82 to 162. I don't even understand how that happens with someone of his talent unless he was hurt. I know, they've said many times that he wasn't...
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