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#121 makoman

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 02:56 PM

I wouldn’t want to sign him to a long term deal, but I have confidence that Henry will still be good next year, even if he’s not an MVP candidate. Hopefully it’s not like Ingram in 2020, but Henry is coming from a higher level.

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 03:11 PM

There will eventually be the day where Henry will lose his top end speed but even if that were to suddenly happen, he's still a force to be reckoned with in the 10-20 yard range. He will still break tackles, wear defenses down and move the chains. That's a valuable asset to have on any offense. Maybe they can find another sleeper, homerun hitter like with Mitchell in the later rounds.


Why not just have Mitchell as that HR hitter? He should be fully back by next year. Hill is quite explosive, too.

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 03:12 PM

I legit have no concerns about Henry. Hes just different. He certainly could lose a step bit that is still a great RB. I just dont see him falling off a cliff. Obviously, injury is the one thing out of his control. That could derail him.

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 04:40 PM

I think Henry Mitchell and Hill are a hell of a threesome at RB (if healthy of course), add in the Lamar threat... beef up O line a bit and they shouldn't drop off a whole lot.

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 05:21 PM

Stanley will be interesting. Have to think there will be pretty strong interest in him around the league. Otherwise they seem pretty set on the line. Vorhees, Linderbaum, Falahle, and Rosengarten. Maybe someone pushes Vorhees out but the other 3 seem set

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 06:08 PM

Stanley will be interesting. Have to think there will be pretty strong interest in him around the league. Otherwise they seem pretty set on the line. Vorhees, Linderbaum, Falahle, and Rosengarten. Maybe someone pushes Vorhees out but the other 3 seem set


You have to resign him IMO.

Probably same with Marlo but I feel like we're gonna regret that one. He's probably going to want 3 years guaranteed to extend, so he won't be cuttable until 2027, and thats a lot of time for father time to do his thing.

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Posted 21 January 2025 - 06:28 PM

I know this gets thrown around a lot for CBs as they age but hardly ever becomes reality... but my gut says Marlon could drop back to a FS spot and flourish in the role for a couple years at the end of his career.



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Posted 21 January 2025 - 06:55 PM

I know this gets thrown around a lot for CBs as they age but hardly ever becomes reality... but my gut says Marlon could drop back to a FS spot and flourish in the role for a couple years at the end of his career.

 

I think you have to be able to play in traffic and against the run, and Marlo was really good in the the slot (which has outside run responsibilities.)

 

Jalen Ramsey is another guy that could probably make the transition for the same reason.  That and Ramsey is already big enough to play in the middle of the field vs TEs and larger WRs.



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Posted 21 January 2025 - 07:58 PM

Stanley will be interesting. Have to think there will be pretty strong interest in him around the league. Otherwise they seem pretty set on the line. Vorhees, Linderbaum, Falahle, and Rosengarten. Maybe someone pushes Vorhees out but the other 3 seem set


They went away from Vorhees pretty early (albeit was dealing with an injury I believe) and never gave him another chance. He might be in the Cleveland doghouse.

Will agree the center and right side seem set with Linderbaum - Faalele - Rosengarten. Thought they gelled very nice as the year went on.

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 10:29 AM

I saw a lot of people hint at it, but to me the biggest thing that needs to change is leadership. That's up to Bisciotti and Decosta to figure out what that actually means, but there is a problem in the locker room. Not in terms of effort, or togetherness, or anything like that, but for years we have seen a host of players, not just Lamar, fail in the playoffs because they try to do too much. It's a common theme in sports in general. I coach college track and field, and when my athletes are too hype, they wet the bed every time.

 

To me, I think Harbaugh has failed to manage the collective personalities on this team in a way that's conducive to playoff success. I think he is a great coach, but several straight years of guys like Zay, Andrews, and Lamar trying to do too much in the playoffs has me thinking the personalities just don't fit right anymore. I don't think this will happen, but I think it needs to be under heavy consideration.

 

Then in terms of the team, I really think they need to target guys who have been there, done that. If we think about the personalities on the 2012-13 Super Bowl champ team, you had an emotional flat line at quarterback, and the face of the franchise in Ray Lewis who had one a Super Bowl. You also had a group that consistently outperformed their seed in the playoffs. Find guys who can contribute to a culture like that. And for what it's worth, I think we saw Lamar make GREAT strides this year in that department.

 

I don't know yet who is out there. I do know we have needs at O-line and pretty much every part of the defense, so that's where the focus should be from a positional perspective. But I think personality and leadership matter more in terms of offseason additions than usual, and that's what I'll be looking for this offseason.



#131 jamesdean

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 10:41 AM

They went away from Vorhees pretty early (albeit was dealing with an injury I believe) and never gave him another chance. He might be in the Cleveland doghouse.

Will agree the center and right side seem set with Linderbaum - Faalele - Rosengarten. Thought they gelled very nice as the year went on.

I think Vorhees has talent and potential but once others started outplaying him, Harbaugh finally stuck with a set line-up and they did mesh together well for the rest of the season.  All are very good run blockers with some limitations in pass protection.  But when you have a quarterback like Lamar, who can make plays with his legs, it hides a lot of those deficiencies.  I do hope they draft at least a couple of OL because that's one position where you can never have enough depth.  The Ravens were very stable, health-wise for most of the year but you can't always count on that happening. 



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Posted 22 January 2025 - 10:50 AM

IM glad someone gave me the opportunity to vent about the Harbaugh stuff. Now is not the time to be trying to switch it up at HC. Ok, Id consider it if it was Hoodie but that is literally it and that aint happening. Culture, team building, bringing in your own staff. That all takes time to come together. How many HCs have won a SB in year 1. Has it ever happened. Everything is in place here. Its just execution by the players. Nothing more needs to happen. 


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Posted 22 January 2025 - 11:09 AM

They went away from Vorhees pretty early (albeit was dealing with an injury I believe) and never gave him another chance. He might be in the Cleveland doghouse.

Will agree the center and right side seem set with Linderbaum - Faalele - Rosengarten. Thought they gelled very nice as the year went on.

He got all the snaps against CLe and played pretty well. Another year removed from his knee surgery. I think he has the inside track but they could always draft a guy that could push him. Will be surprised if they spend any FA money on the interior OL. Do think they try to re sign Stanley



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Posted 22 January 2025 - 11:44 AM

I don't remember this being pointed out in-game or discussed elsewhere yet (I've mostly avoided media coverage of the game since Sunday)... but in the year-end presser going on right now, unless I'm misunderstanding him... Harbs just revealed that the 2nd and goal play where Lamar got sacked after Henry got stuffed on first... was intended to be a tackle-eligible to Ronnie Stanley in the endzone.

 

Also my own reading between the lines on something DeCosta said when asked about Stephens... I wouldn't put money on the Ravens trying very hard to re-sign him.  Not sure why, but his response seemed more "polite compliment" than "we want him back" to me.  Which doesn't upset me.  But we'll see...



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Posted 22 January 2025 - 12:08 PM

I don't remember this being pointed out in-game or discussed elsewhere yet (I've mostly avoided media coverage of the game since Sunday)... but in the year-end presser going on right now, unless I'm misunderstanding him... Harbs just revealed that the 2nd and goal play where Lamar got sacked after Henry got stuffed on first... was intended to be a tackle-eligible to Ronnie Stanley in the endzone.

 

Also my own reading between the lines on something DeCosta said when asked about Stephens... I wouldn't put money on the Ravens trying very hard to re-sign him.  Not sure why, but his response seemed more "polite compliment" than "we want him back" to me.  Which doesn't upset me.  But we'll see...

I do think Stephens arrives to camp in July but depending on who they drafted or who they signed via free agency, it wouldn't surprise me if they just cut him.  Personally, I think it needs to happen.  Let him be some other team's headache.  The guy was a season long liability and never got any better.  



#136 mdrunning

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 12:20 PM

Just saw today that the Ravens recently reached an agreement with Marcus Williams on a restructure.

 

Under the new terms, Williams' base salary will be lowered from $12 million to $2.1 million, creating $9.9 million in savings. He'll be designated as a post June 1 release, making him an immediate free agent but the additional $2.1 million in cap savings won't be realized until June 2. This move will result in dead cap charges of $6.73 million in both 2025 and 2026.

 

Link (scroll down a bit to find the article):


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#137 makoman

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 01:02 PM


I do think Stephens arrives to camp in July but depending on who they drafted or who they signed via free agency, it wouldn't surprise me if they just cut him. Personally, I think it needs to happen. Let him be some other team's headache. The guy was a season long liability and never got any better.


Stephens is a FA. I’m glad they didn’t pay him last year. I feel like there was talk that they made an offer but don’t remember.

#138 jamesdean

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 01:11 PM

Stephens is a FA. I’m glad they didn’t pay him last year. I feel like there was talk that they made an offer but don’t remember.


Ok, that's even better.

#139 Biggsy

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 01:22 PM

I don't remember this being pointed out in-game or discussed elsewhere yet (I've mostly avoided media coverage of the game since Sunday)... but in the year-end presser going on right now, unless I'm misunderstanding him... Harbs just revealed that the 2nd and goal play where Lamar got sacked after Henry got stuffed on first... was intended to be a tackle-eligible to Ronnie Stanley in the endzone.

Also my own reading between the lines on something DeCosta said when asked about Stephens... I wouldn't put money on the Ravens trying very hard to re-sign him. Not sure why, but his response seemed more "polite compliment" than "we want him back" to me. Which doesn't upset me. But we'll see...




EDC's response on Rosengarten kind of hints to me that they're not going to be breaking the bank trying to resign Stanley as well. When asked about him, he made it a point to say that he can play both sides, and an offseason in the weight room usually does 2nd year lineman wonders.

I can see them offering Stanley a team friendly deal, and basically telling him if he can get better elsewhere, good luck.

Unfortunately, that puts a massive hole on one side of the line. And in a division with Myles Garrett, Trey Hendrickson and TJ Watt, it's not advisable to try and patch that hole with bargain bin replacements.

#140 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 01:40 PM

Just keep Rosengarten on the right side. Didnt he play RT in college?? Making the move in the NFL seems too risky




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