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#21 NewMarketSean

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:00 PM

The INT ultimately meant nothing. It didn't take points off the board like the fumble. And Buffalo punted it right back, so it didn't lead to any points either.

 

It ended a Ravens drive with 0 points. It meant something.


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#22 Biggsy

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:05 PM

Im pretty sure the QBR factors the fumble. Im actually surprised his QBR was this high but he was efficient. I dont think he get marked down for the drops. The narrative will be what it will be and he has to get that monkey off his back. That said, if you want to see a guy where the moment is just way to big see Darnold. Thats a complete choke job when pressure is on. Lamar hasnt been great but he doesnt worry me either. I know he can get the job done and I still believe he will one day



I mean, he went 88 yards when it meant the most. He put the game tying throw in his recievers chest. He literally couldn't have done anything more at the end than he did. And none of the turnovers were great defensive plays. It was 2 basic tackles and a gimmie INT. That's what's frustrating. If the defender just makes a phenomenal play and wins, whatever. But unforced errors are always the killer of this team when it matters.


Lamar didn't lose the game. And the Ravens didn't lose because of Lamar. But he never seems to play at that elite MVP level in the postseason games when we need him most either. He had his chance this season to silence everyone. If he put 4 straight elite performances and won a superbowl, he would have shut everyone up.

#23 jamesdean

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:11 PM

I mean, he went 88 yards when it meant the most. He put the game tying throw in his recievers chest. He literally couldn't have done anything more at the end than he did. And none of the turnovers were great defensive plays. It was 2 basic tackles and a gimmie INT. That's what's frustrating. If the defender just makes a phenomenal play and wins, whatever. But unforced errors are always the killer of this team when it matters.


Lamar didn't lose the game. And the Ravens didn't lose because of Lamar. But he never seems to play at that elite MVP level in the postseason games when we need him most either. He had his chance this season to silence everyone. If he put 4 straight elite performances and won a superbowl, he would have shut everyone up.

Outside of Mahomes, Lamar has a lot of company if fans want to go down the "choke" road. 



#24 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:20 PM

I really do still believe he will get one but again there are 3 other future HOF QBs in this conference right now that are in their prime. It will never be easy.  The NFC doesnt have a single definite HOF QB that is in their prime. Stafford will make it one day but hes old. Daniels may make it one day but tbd. Love tbd. 



#25 You Play to Win the Game

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:26 PM

Flacco went through Manning and Brady to get his (and Luck and Kaep in their primes). En route to a 12 TD/0 turnover run.

#26 Slidemaster

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:26 PM

I really do still believe he will get one but again there are 3 other future HOF QBs in this conference right now that are in their prime. It will never be easy. The NFC doesnt have a single definite HOF QB that is in their prime. Stafford will make it one day but hes old. Daniels may make it one day but tbd. Love tbd.

These are the excuses of people who root for the losers.

Go Fing win. Nobody cares why you lost.

#27 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:43 PM

Its just a fact. I already said I fully believe he will get his. Both of you doubters will once again be proven wrong.

#28 BaltBird 24

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:45 PM

He's gonna break through eventually. He was good against Pittsburgh. He was good against Buffalo. But man, it's a tough road getting there.

#29 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:47 PM

The Bills "fan" version of slidemaster will be saying the exact same thing this slidemaster is saying now. Just a week later. The Bengals version of slidemaster wonders why Burrow cant even make the playoffs anymore. Youre damn right its a tough road. Its easy being the guy saying something wont happen when the overwhelming odds are in your favor. Best case scenario a team has a 15% chance to win the SB at the start of the year. No one is surprised slidemaster takes the easy way out. Playing the 85% favorite.


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#30 Ravens2006

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:53 PM

Gotta get more at home, and they have to PROTECT THE BALL when they have it. Do both and they'll stroll to a SB with ease. Do the latter and they can get there home or away.

#31 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 12:57 PM

It did set in on me yesterday that we were only 1 game off our win total from last year. 13-4 got us the #1 last year. 13-4 this year prob still gets us the #3 seed. Buf didnt have to play to win their final game in NE. May have lost regardless but they certainly wouldve been favs to win and get to 14 wins

#32 BaltBird 24

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:20 PM

Getting through the AFC is a true gauntlet. Mahomes, Lamar, Allen.

No disrespect to the NFC, but Hurts, Mayfield, Goff, Love ain't those guys. Maybe Daniels will be there someday, but the NFC road is a much easier path.

#33 russsnyder

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:34 PM

These are the excuses of people who root for the losers.

Go Fing win. Nobody cares why you lost.

This is coming from a guy that quit in the second quarter yesterday. Quitters shouldn't call call other people losers. ( Last time I checked everyone on the Ravens were trying to win that game while you were "winterizing your house.") Quitters are the ultimate losers.
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#34 Slidemaster

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:39 PM

This is coming from a guy that quit in the second quarter yesterday. Quitters shouldn't call call other people losers. ( Last time I checked everyone on the Ravens were trying to win that game while you were "winterizing your) house." Quitters, by definition, are losers at their core.


I'm not the one on the field. What I think or say or do has no impact on the field.

I'm tired of all the reasons they couldn't/shouldn't/wouldn't. They're now in a class by themselves (literally) for teams with stellar regular season records who have never been to a Superbowl.

GO. WIN.

#35 russsnyder

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:41 PM

I'm not the one on the field. What I think or say or do has no impact on the field.

I'm tired of all the reasons they couldn't/shouldn't/wouldn't. They're now in a class by themselves (literally) for teams with stellar regular season records who have never been to a Superbowl.

GO. WIN.

You are a quitter buddy.

You shouldn't be calling anyone a loser.
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#36 BaltBird 24

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:44 PM

They're consistently great during the regular season (aside from the injury riddled years). That means something. They'll also earn whatever criticism they get until they can get over the hump.

I'd still much rather be where we are right now, consistently in the conversation as one of the best teams and in the title conversation, than on the opposite end of always being draft day champions. Or worse, mediocre football purgatory like Pittsburgh.
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#37 Slidemaster

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:45 PM

You are a quitter buddy.

You shouldn't be calling anyone a loser.

Whatever dude. The mistakes they made in the second quarter cost them the game as much as anything else did. The bills played ultra conservative with the confidence that the Ravens offense would self destruct, and that's exactly what they did.

#38 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:47 PM

His entitlement is beyond cringe. Fing baby



#39 Slidemaster

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:50 PM

His entitlement is beyond cringe. Fing baby


There was nothing about last night that was excusable. Every mistake they made was self inflicted.

You keep crediting the quality of their opponents, but that should have been a 10-point win. At what point do you finally hold the team accountable for the mistakes they made, and what they did to themselves?



#40 Slidemaster

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Posted 20 January 2025 - 01:51 PM

I will say this. All of last year, I was of the opinion that Lamar couldn't win the big one. While I think he certainly has his share of the blame, it really isn't just him. This entire team is mentally soft, and shrinks at the worst moments.

Something has to change. When the season ends the same way over and over and over again, there's a systemic problem.




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