57 replies to this topic

[jamesdean]

Maybe they really and truly expect Bradish and Means back soon.

At this point, I'd say its wishful thinking.

[mdrunning]

The Orioles were "in" on him. He chose to play for Arizona. It happens.

Did the Orioles actually make him an offer? I haven't seen anything to confirm they did.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Os have to start taking advantage of opportunities like these. You cant make a guy sign with you but we are still never going to pay premium FA prices . When a top FAs price drops for whatever reason and he fits a need you have to jump. Securing Montgomery for a year or two would have been huge.

[CantonJester]

The Orioles were "in" on him. He chose to play for Arizona. It happens.

 

In on him for one year, and if all goes well, a player option for next season? Or in on him for two guaranteed years and he chose the lesser offer to play for Arizona. 

 

Seems to me if all it took was a two year deal then the O’s missed a huge opportunity to bolster their rotation. 

[Mackus]

The Orioles were "in" on him. He chose to play for Arizona. It happens.

Not buying this. In on him doesn't mean making a similar offer. Make the best offer by a decent margin, especially when prices are so reasonable.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I don't give a crap if the O's are in on a player. What a line of garbage. You get a player for a good price or you don't. There isn't a participation trophy for being "in on it."

[BaltBird 24]

I don't give a crap if the O's are in on a player. What a line of garbage. You get a player for a good price or you don't. There isn't a participation trophy for being "in on it."

It doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy?

[mdrunning]

The Yankees were reportedly in as well, but their offer contained heavy deferrals due to their CBT obligations. That would have pushed the AAV of the deal to far less than what Arizona offered.

 

The Orioles missed on Montgomery, but so did 29 other teams. I don't know if that was due to budget restraints, Elias's risk aversion to investing $25 million per annum in a pitcher even for the short-term, or if it was simply a case of player choice. I do hope that with new ownership, Elias will now have all of the tools at his disposal to assemble a championship team, and that would mean not largely punting on free agency and at the trade deadline.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Without knowing ties to teams etc, why would Montgomery choose Arizona over Baltimore for equal $$? if a guys wants a ring surely in 2024 the O's are a better path than Arizona.

[85Knight]

I don't give a crap if the O's are in on a player. What a line of garbage. You get a player for a good price or you don't. There isn't a participation trophy for being "in on it."

This is exactly what I was talking about. We can only hope this changes with new ownership but up until now this gets extremely frustrating when you see deals like this and we're just kicking the tires. We got Burnes now let's go all in. Next year is not guaranteed.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The good thing about making trades, at least for guys without NTC, is they cant tell you no. Why they got Burnes. Why they still should have made a push for Luzardo or Cease. I guess we will see what the trade deadline brings

[weird-O]

Did the Orioles actually make him an offer? I haven't seen anything to confirm they did.

There isn't a confirmed offer from the O's, but a few reliable outlets said the O's were talking to him. In the past, those stories were usually provided from Roch or any of the other O's P.R. guys. But these were national people, so it feels more legit to me. 

[Slidemaster]

At this point, I'd say its wishful thinking.

Perhaps, but, knock on wood, we've heard no bad news and heard of no signs of a setback. I don't think Elias would go on record as saying Bradish would be back early in the first half unless he really believed it.

[BobPhelan]

Not buying this. In on him doesn't mean making a similar offer. Make the best offer by a decent margin, especially when prices are so reasonable.

We were linked by national reporters as Weird-O mentioned above. At the point where he shifts goals from a long term contract to a short term deal he’s trying to hit FA again at the end of the season. So he basically gets to pick where he plays and he chose Arizona. I would’ve liked to get him too but I’m not sure it’s something to be upset about.

At least he went to the NL. All the Boras guys did.

[Mackus]

There isn't a confirmed offer from the O's, but a few reliable outlets said the O's were talking to him. In the past, those stories were usually provided from Roch or any of the other O's P.R. guys. But these were national people, so it feels more legit to me.

All I saw was Bowden conjecturing that they should talk to him. Do you have an actual report that they offered him a contract equal or bigger than what Arizona did?

Offering a lesser or even equal deal wouldn't earn any credit, but a noticeably bigger offer and he takes less you'd at least begrudgingly say they tried. But I do not believe that happened and nothing I've see suggests it did.

[weird-O]

All I saw was Bowden conjecturing that they should talk to him. Do you have an actual report that they offered him a contract equal or bigger than what Arizona did?

Offering a lesser or even equal deal wouldn't earn any credit, but a noticeably bigger offer and he takes less you'd at least begrudgingly say they tried. But I do not believe that happened and nothing I've see suggests it did.

I don't. And I don't blame you for being skeptical. 

[BSLMikeLowe]

https://www.espn.com...ops-scott-boras

[ivanbalt]

Uh oh, time for a Boras op-ed about how baseball is being ruined by teams not giving his clients whatever they want.