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Vavra down, Ortiz up


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#21 BaltBird 24

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Posted 27 April 2023 - 02:13 PM

We could've gotten similar production at the plate, with perhaps a slight decline in defense, if we had gone with Vavra and never signed Frazier.

McKenna is an OK 4th outfield/ late defensive replacement.

Having those two on the ML roster for near minimum salary makes Frazier and his $8M salary redundant.

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Posted 27 April 2023 - 02:22 PM

Over his last 10 games Ortiz is hitting .459/.488/.649 (1.137) with 5 doubles, a triple, and a stolen base. 189 wRC+, 9.3% walk rate, 9.3% strikeout rate.

Plus the Orioles are facing 3 lefties in Detroit.  


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Posted 27 April 2023 - 02:36 PM

We could've gotten similar production at the plate, with perhaps a slight decline in defense, if we had gone with Vavra and never signed Frazier.

McKenna is an OK 4th outfield/ late defensive replacement.

Having those two on the ML roster for near minimum salary makes Frazier and his $8M salary redundant.

 

For as on point as most of Elias' moves have been, I've not been able to make any sense out of giving 8 mill to Frazier. Particularly when we have quality middle infield prospects in the high minors. I guess "veteranosity" still carries value in the marketplace. 


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Posted 28 April 2023 - 05:37 PM

I think Frazier has been a nice addition, at least so far, he isn’t a world burner but a good vet who is our best 2B defensively, can play outfield and his bat has been okay.


Is a .631 OPS, 20th out of 24 qualifying 2Bmen okay? Not if you're trying to make the playoffs and you have arguably better and cheaper options available in house.
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Posted 28 April 2023 - 05:58 PM

The problem has been, and always will be, that we had multiple in house options who were already likely to be better.

Adam Frazier has been exactly what we expected. A very weak bat with very solid defense.

A very baffling move by Elias. He's usually on point, but that move made absolutely zero sense.




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