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Balt Sun: Elias' Time In Houston Still Paying Off For Astros


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#1 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 29 October 2022 - 02:35 PM

Balt Sun: On cusp of GM Mike Elias’ fifth year with Orioles, his time in Houston still paying off for Astros

https://www.baltimor...DtumFCBDCWfAhFY



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Posted 29 October 2022 - 02:52 PM

I don't know what facts we'd use to support that, but don't let that stop anyone.



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Posted 29 October 2022 - 02:56 PM

dude triggered. Got to love it



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Posted 29 October 2022 - 03:12 PM

dude triggered. Got to love it

 

Even better is hypocritical irony of your comment.

 

Astros have had one of the worst (if not the worst) farm systems that last 4-5 years.  Elias?  



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Posted 29 October 2022 - 03:14 PM

Even better is hypocritical irony of your comment.

Astros have had one of the worst (if not the worst) farm systems that last 4-5 years. Elias?

That seems disingenuous. They’ve graduated a good number of highly productive talent that was acquired while he was there. They’ve also used some of it in trades to bolster a roster that’s reached the World Series 4 times in 6 years.

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Posted 29 October 2022 - 03:22 PM

That seems disingenuous. They’ve graduated a good number of highly productive talent that was acquired while he was there. They’ve also used some of it in trades to bolster a roster that’s reached the World Series 4 times in 6 years.

 

You're using a narrative that isn't true....because people want to believe that narrative.

 

Just go review the players from the 2012-2018 draft classes.  I've done it many times.  We can discuss it in any detail anyone wants.

 

I'm good with many of the things Elias has done in terms of player development, draft, etc.  It's not a continuation of some dramatic plan from Houston and it hasn't actually born fruit in Baltimore yet.  We'll see, there's certainly opportunity to prove merit and I've said many times I'm comfortable with the generic opportunity (baseline + whatever they can do) heading into 2023.



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Posted 29 October 2022 - 03:27 PM


That seems disingenuous. They’ve graduated a good number of highly productive talent that was acquired while he was there. They’ve also used some of it in trades to bolster a roster that’s reached the World Series 4 times in 6 years.

dude, disingenuous! Cant be

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Posted 29 October 2022 - 03:29 PM

Im sure its not true but a little part of me wants to believe Stoner posted this to troll dude. Just with the headline you knew dude was gonna make a post.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 08:33 PM

That seems disingenuous. They’ve graduated a good number of highly productive talent that was acquired while he was there. They’ve also used some of it in trades to bolster a roster that’s reached the World Series 4 times in 6 years.

Guess that means we know what's in our future. Excuse me if I don't hold my breath.



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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:48 AM

I really don't care whether the Astro's are still benefitting from the work of Elias, what we need to learn is, can Elias make acquisitions, via trade or free agency that better the major league team,as we hopefully move to the contender status.


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Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:09 AM

I really don't care whether the Astro's are still benefitting from the work of Elias, what we need to learn is, can Elias make acquisitions, via trade or free agency that better the major league team,as we hopefully move to the contender status.

The past few years have been all about getting to this point, and answering this question. I think he has the right people in place, and the evaluation skills needed. So we'll find out if ownership will back his plans, or if he's forced to trade away his prospects for near FAs, work his 2-3 year window, then start the process all over again. 

 

Forgive me for my lack of faith in ownership. 


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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:01 PM

The past few years have been all about getting to this point, and answering this question. I think he has the right people in place, and the evaluation skills needed. So we'll find out if ownership will back his plans, or if he's forced to trade away his prospects for near FAs, work his 2-3 year window, then start the process all over again. 

 

Forgive me for my lack of faith in ownership. 

Same place I am.


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Posted 05 November 2022 - 08:30 PM

Same place I am.

Me too.


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