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[bmore_ken]

CBS Sports: 2023 NFL Draft first-round grades, tracker: Cowboys get 'A' for Mazi Smith; Falcons get 'D' for Bijan Robinson

https://www.cbssport...bijan-robinson/

 

CBS Sports: 2023 NFL Draft: Home runs and head-scratchers from Round 1: Eagles, Seahawks shine; Lions confuse

https://www.cbssport...-lions-confuse/

With the caveat that I haven't read the story yet, the Atlanta pick was a head scratcher for me. 

[jamesdean]

Really surprised that Gonzalez was still there at 17.  The Patriots got a steal there. I bet if EDC had a lot more picks, he would have traded up to grab him.  And I'm really stunned that Porter wasn't picked in the 1st round.  Man, his stock must have plummeted for some reason. 

[Pedro Cerrano]

Really surprised that Gonzalez was still there at 17. The Patriots got a steal there. I bet if EDC had a lot more picks, he would have traded up to grab him. And I'm really stunned that Porter wasn't picked in the 1st round. Man, his stock must have plummeted for some reason.

Steelers go first tonight. I bet they take.

[jamesdean]

Steelers go first tonight. I bet they take.

No doubt. 

[hallas]

Would you package Queen and a 3rd rounder to move up to the 2nd round so we can get a better cornerback?  I think this might be the move.  I don't want to say Queen's entirely expendable, because he definitely started playing well once he had Roquan next to him to help cover for his shortfalls, but with Roquan as the main off-ball linebacker and Hamilton able to play about 5 defensive positions, Queen is a bit of a luxury, while having a CB2 isn't.

[Mackus]

Would you package Queen and a 3rd rounder to move up to the 2nd round so we can get a better cornerback?  I think this might be the move.  I don't want to say Queen's entirely expendable, because he definitely started playing well once he had Roquan next to him to help cover for his shortfalls, but with Roquan as the main off-ball linebacker and Hamilton able to play about 5 defensive positions, Queen is a bit of a luxury, while having a CB2 isn't.

 

Yeah, I think that'd be a good use of resources.

 

Purely value-wise, if you care about the chart, going from #86 to the early part of the 2nd round is equivalent to getting back a mid- to late-second round pick.

[Slidemaster]

Would you package Queen and a 3rd rounder to move up to the 2nd round so we can get a better cornerback? I think this might be the move. I don't want to say Queen's entirely expendable, because he definitely started playing well once he had Roquan next to him to help cover for his shortfalls, but with Roquan as the main off-ball linebacker and Hamilton able to play about 5 defensive positions, Queen is a bit of a luxury, while having a CB2 isn't.

With the recently freed cap space I might see if I can just sign someone in FA and keep the middle of the defense as strong as possible for a possible SB run. The roster is pretty talented.

With that said, if they love a guy in the draft, go get him.

[cprenegade]

Pittsburgh picks Joey Porter Jr.  I saw that coming from last night.  

[Mike in STL]

Why wouldn’t TEN trade up into round 1 to get Levis and have the 5th year option? Would rather have that then the 7th round pick or something it would have cost to go up three or four spots than 33.

[Biggsy]

Why wouldn’t TEN trade up into round 1 to get Levis and have the 5th year option? Would rather have that then the 7th round pick or something it would have cost to go up three or four spots than 33.

Sounded like they were trying to. But weren't offering enough to move teams out of the first.

[BaltBird 24]

The dangers of drafting a bust QB. They just wasted a 3rd round pick on Willis last year.

[Mike in STL]

The dangers of drafting a bust QB. They just wasted a 3rd round pick on Willis last year.

Eh, it’s worth it to throw those darts. Pats drafted Jimmy G and still went to Super Bowls. Packers with Love and still went to Conference title games. Never know when a vet will turn into a pumpkin. Never know when a mid rounder discovers something and becomes a pro bowler.

I never liked the thought that if your QB gets hurt the season is over. You at least need a game manager or a guy with unknown ceiling to step in. Cooper Rush, Brock Purdy, etc. My guess is they took a chance on Willis, know what his ceiling is, move on.

It’s kind of exactly what the Ravens should have done a year ago, you saw Huntley in 20’ and 21’, not impressed, draft someone in the mid rounds to compete with him. Not a punter in round four. That guy last year instead of Huntley/Brown, maybe keeps the Division in play. Maybe has a better football IQ and they beat whomever in the playoffs. Or he’s no better than Huntley and you move on. Whichever undrafted punter they bring in instead probably does as good or better than whatshisface.

Huntleys spot should 100% be challenged either with a pick, or a vet FA.

[cprenegade]

The dangers of drafting a bust QB. They just wasted a 3rd round pick on Willis last year.

 

I remember last years draft how many people were saying Willis should have been the first QB off the board with a greater upside.  Still doesn't mean he can't be a good QB, maybe just the wrong system for him.   I really thought the Ravens could have taken him when he slipped well into the second round.  Might have been the perfect system for him to learn in with Lamar.  But I understand there were bigger needs at the time.  

[Biggsy]

Any chance Kelee Ringo is still around for us?

[Bmore Irish]

Any chance Kelee Ringo is still around for us?

Sure, why not? The CBs have generally fallen quite a bit further than I expected, other than a few exceptions.

Also currently available at CB are Clark Phillips III, Darius Rush and Jakorian Bennett.

Cue the run on corners now.

[Mike B]

Would you package Queen and a 3rd rounder to move up to the 2nd round so we can get a better cornerback?  I think this might be the move.  I don't want to say Queen's entirely expendable, because he definitely started playing well once he had Roquan next to him to help cover for his shortfalls, but with Roquan as the main off-ball linebacker and Hamilton able to play about 5 defensive positions, Queen is a bit of a luxury, while having a CB2 isn't.

No.  The Ravens are going to sign a corner and a rush linebacker.  It may be Peters and Houston.  

[cprenegade]

Any chance Kelee Ringo is still around for us?

 

He's the one that could be a sleeper.  I'm surprised he is still there.  

[Mike B]

Any chance Kelee Ringo is still around for us?

Thee picks away he still is.

[Biggsy]

He's the one that could be a sleeper. I'm surprised he is still there.

6'2 with a 4.3 forty and good cover skills. I don't get it.

[cprenegade]

He's there.  I would be surprised if the Ravens don't take him.