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[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Who will be on 2023 Baseball Hall of Fame ballot? Carlos Beltrán, K-Rod biggest names set to join

https://www.cbssport...es-set-to-join/

[weird-O]

That's a weak class of freshman candidates. The weakest I can remember. It stands in start contrast to just a few years ago, when there were so many "locks" for the hall, that many had to wait, just because it wasn't possible to vote them all in at one time.  

[BSLJoeLucia]

The beyond awful slate of first-timers (seriously, K-Rod arguably being the second-best candidate is only gonna help Billy Wagner) should help the middle of the road guys that need a boost, like Helton, Rolen, and Andruw.

 

2024 is rough, too. Beltre should be an easy first timer, but then you're looking at guys like Mauer, Utley, Holliday, Wright....all great players, but probably short?

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Mauer is 1st ballot. Utley is also a HOFer

[BSLJoeLucia]

I don't disagree, but they don't have sexy resumes. The bar for catchers is stupid high (it took Gary Carter six years!), and Mauer's also gonna get punished for the move to 1B. I also fear Utley will get the Grich/Whitaker treatment, but hoping the younger/smarter electorate can evaluate him better.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Mauer may not be 1st ballot. Will dig deeper. Obviously a HOFer though

[BSLChrisStoner]

FanGraphs: The Big Questions About the 2023 BBWAA Hall of Fame Ballot

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Maybe Wagner gets in since its a weak year. Rolen too.

[BSLJordanKatz]

Beltran's resume feels like a pretty solid yes but I can't imagine he'll very easily get the Astros stink off of him

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Scott Rolen is trending toward Baseball Hall of Fame induction -- here's why 2023 could be the year he gets in

https://www.cbssport...ear-he-gets-in/

[Old Man]

I don't disagree, but they don't have sexy resumes. The bar for catchers is stupid high (it took Gary Carter six years!), and Mauer's also gonna get punished for the move to 1B. I also fear Utley will get the Grich/Whitaker treatment, but hoping the younger/smarter electorate can evaluate him better.

The stupid writers have no clue as to the game they are covering.

 

They really need a better system at selecting HOF.

[BSLChrisStoner]

The Ringer: Jay Jaffe’s 2023 Hall of Fame Ballot

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Does Cooperstown need more closers? Examining Billy Wagner, K-Rod and other pitchers on Hall of Fame ballot

https://www.cbssport...of-fame-ballot/

[SonicAttack]

IMO Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez should be in.   Of the new class - I think C Belt deserves a HOF nod.  

[Pedro Cerrano]

I’ve said it a million times but it’s BS that Ortiz gets the red carpet rolled out for him to the HOF and the rest of these guys aren’t in.

Guys like Clemens Arod Bonds and Manny were largely disliked by the media but because Ortiz was “Papi” with that stupid smile they love him and vote him in.

He cheated just like the others.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

I’ve said it a million times but it’s BS that Ortiz gets the red carpet rolled out for him to the HOF and the rest of these guys aren’t in.

Guys like Clemens Arod Bonds and Manny were largely disliked by the media but because Ortiz was “Papi” with that stupid smile they love him and vote him in.

He cheated just like the others.

Ortiz first ballot vs Bagwell and Piazza not first ballot is the biggest thing for me. I guess you could twist things with Bonds and Clemens to tell yourself things were different. They weren't and they should both be in but Bagwell and Piazza both had to wait out nothing but suspicion. Ortiz actually failed the drug testing MLB did that was supposed to stay anonymous. He was also purely a DH. Yet we had all the excuses why Edgar waited forever and still cant find a way to get Dick Allen in

[Pedro Cerrano]

The whole establishment is a joke. Nothing against Mo Rivera but it’s a load of crap that he was the first unanimous first ballot player. He’s a closer. Cmon.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The whole establishment is a joke. Nothing against Mo Rivera but it’s a load of crap that he was the first unanimous first ballot player. He’s a closer. Cmon.

I do think things are slowly changing. Old guys are not gonna stay around forever and there are enough newer guys with a  different perspective 

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Baseball Hall of Fame: Why Carlos Beltrán, Billy Wagner are among nine players on 2023 ballot worthy of a vote

https://www.cbssport...rthy-of-a-vote/

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Which current MLB players will make the Hall of Fame? Breaking down seven locks, dozens of others with a shot

https://www.cbssport...rs-with-a-shot/

 

Not '23 Ballot, but a good read.