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[DJ MC]

I bet Greensboro gets one of those...anyone want to bet against me?

Considering the only people who have EVER wanted to do anything in Greensboro are the ACC, I'll avoid giving you my money, thanks.

[Oriole85]

ESPN: ACC not looking for long-term home

 

http://espn.go.com/m...early-next-year

[Oriole85]

ESPN: Washington lands ACC tournament

 

http://espn.go.com/m...ayed-washington

 

Nice timing there with Maryland leaving.

[DJ MC]

CollegeBasketballTalk wondered if this was a "sneaky jab" at Maryland. No, this is a gigantic, two-handed, screaming-at-the-top-of-their-lungs “EFF YOU!” at Maryland.

[SportsGuy]

CollegeBasketballTalk wondered if this was a "sneaky jab" at Maryland. No, this is a gigantic, two-handed, screaming-at-the-top-of-their-lungs “EFF YOU!” at Maryland.

No doubt about that.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Some people are just so jealous.

 

I won't miss the ACC -- bunch of "Good Ol' Boy" rednecks that haven't left the state of North Carolina since....ever.

[BSLChrisStoner]

It's less of a jab, and more of a business decision. The ACC does not want to lose relevancy in DC (and Baltimore). The new markets coming in help, but these are major media markets to lose.

(ACC going to get plenty of coverage everywhere... football improving, basketball going to be great...but there does figure to be less coverage in DC and Baltimore, without MD being part of the league... this is a counter.)

[Pedro Cerrano]

I was really hoping that UVA and UNC would join the B1G and have that stupid conference collapse on itself with nowhere for dook to go.

 

Oh well.

[Oriole85]

It's less of a jab, and more of a business decision. The ACC does not want to lose relevancy in DC (and Baltimore). The new markets coming in help, but these are major media markets to lose.

(ACC going to get plenty of coverage everywhere... football improving, basketball going to be great...but there does figure to be less coverage in DC and Baltimore, without MD being part of the league... this is a counter.)

I agree with this completely as MD fans we tend to look at it from the jab angle. It's a nice somewhat central location with new markets coming in.

[Pedro Cerrano]

The fact that this damn tournament is in Greensboro, NC 90% of the time or whatever shows how biased the entire conference is. 

 

Right now 1/3 of the ACC schools are in NC.  The tournament should be in NC 1/3 of the time.  It's a huge advantage to the NC schools and their fan bases to hold it there almost every year and it basically says "who cares" about the other schools in the league. 

 

This is a big reason why I support MD leaving.

[DJ MC]

I agree with this completely as MD fans we tend to look at it from the jab angle. It's a nice somewhat central location with new markets coming in.

 

It was already a "central" location, with Maryland and the Virginia schools nearby and BC having that far less to travel. Yet since the conference expanded (coincidentally the last time the tournament was held in DC: 2005) they held it in Atlanta twice and Tampa (yes, TAMPA). Before 2005, it hadn't been in DC since 1987.

 

I find it very hard to believe that DC is suddenly going to become a regular part of the rotation, even once a decade, because it is "central" to Pitt and Syracuse.

[DJ MC]

The fact that this damn tournament is in Greensboro, NC 90% of the time or whatever shows how biased the entire conference is. 

 

Right now 1/3 of the ACC schools are in NC.  The tournament should be in NC 1/3 of the time.  It's a huge advantage to the NC schools and their fan bases to hold it there almost every year and it basically says "who cares" about the other schools in the league. 

 

This is a big reason why I support MD leaving.

 

See, if they just held the damn thing in Greensboro every single year it wouldn't be an issue. But when they act like it's such a struggle to get all of these teams to DC while holding the tournament in Florida...

[Oriole85]

It was already a "central" location, with Maryland and the Virginia schools nearby and BC having that far less to travel. Yet since the conference expanded (coincidentally the last time the tournament was held in DC: 2005) they held it in Atlanta twice and Tampa (yes, TAMPA). Before 2005, it hadn't been in DC since 1987.

 

I find it very hard to believe that DC is suddenly going to become a regular part of the rotation, even once a decade, because it is "central" to Pitt and Syracuse.

It's MORE of a central location now, lots of alums located in the area. It won't be part of the regular rotation, but once every decade or so sounds about right.

[DJ MC]

It's MORE of a central location now, lots of alums located in the area. It won't be part of the regular rotation, but once every decade or so sounds about right.

 

We'll see, but I don't think there's any reason to downplay the ulterior motive. The ACC never really accepted Maryland, despite the fact that we, you know, founded the goddamn conference.

[Oriole85]

The fact that this damn tournament is in Greensboro, NC 90% of the time or whatever shows how biased the entire conference is. 

 

Right now 1/3 of the ACC schools are in NC.  The tournament should be in NC 1/3 of the time.  It's a huge advantage to the NC schools and their fan bases to hold it there almost every year and it basically says "who cares" about the other schools in the league. 

 

This is a big reason why I support MD leaving.

Big 10 only has 2 schools a piece in Indiana and Illinois, yet the championship is in those places 100% of the time.

[DJ MC]

Big 10 only has 2 schools a piece in Indiana and Illinois, yet the championship is in those places 100% of the time.

Bad example: the Big Ten has a maximum of two schools in any state (those two, along with Michigan).

[Oriole85]

Bad example: the Big Ten has a maximum of two schools in any state (those two, along with Michigan).

No it's not, they only play in those two places. Since the problem is about how they should move the ACC Tournament around more. They don't move the Big 10 Tournament around, but a lot of complaining how it should get out of NC more.

[DJ MC]

No it's not, they only play in those two places. Since the problem is about how they should move the ACC Tournament around more. They don't move the Big 10 Tournament around, but a lot of complaining how it should get out of NC more.

Except holding in Chicago and Indianapolis (and now alternating years) is a bit different than holding it in Greensboro with the occasional weekend getaway to Raleigh or Charlotte.

[Oriole85]

Except holding in Chicago and Indianapolis (and now alternating years) is a bit different than holding it in Greensboro with the occasional weekend getaway to Raleigh or Charlotte.

You want it both ways. The whole argument was that North Carolina only accounts for a 1/3 of the teams so it should only be there a 1/3 of the time. So I'm just applying that same argument here with having the tournament exclusively in two states that have four schools.

[DJ MC]

You want it both ways. The whole argument was that North Carolina only accounts for a 1/3 of the teams so it should only be there a 1/3 of the time. So I'm just applying that same argument here with having the tournament exclusively in two states that have four schools.

 

My argument is that the conference doesn't respect Maryland (or the other schools north of the Virginia border) to hold the tournament in DC more than once a decade, even though they will put it in Atlanta more than once (and again, frickin' TAMPA). As I said to Pedro, if they just stuck it in Greensboro permanently, I would have less of an issue (or in Charlotte, or Atlanta for that matter).