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#61 McNulty

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 06:14 AM

Carolina and Tennessee (Nashville).  Beyond that I'm guessing its some random teams from the 1930s that moved or don't exist any longer.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 06:52 AM

Carolina and Tennessee (Nashville). Beyond that I'm guessing its some random teams from the 1930s that moved or don't exist any longer.


Nashville AND Memphis, for the Oilers/Titans.
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Posted 23 January 2017 - 06:55 AM

I'm assuming we're not counting San Antonio, from when they hosted the Saints.
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Posted 23 January 2017 - 08:51 AM

Carolina (Charlotte) is one. Tennessee (Nashville) is another. You can lump Memphis in with Nashville I guess.
Not counting San Antonio, or Baton Rouge.

So there are two more. And yes, they are obscure. One could be called a neighborhood rather than a city. The other played for just one season in 1933, then became the franchise it still is today in 1934.
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Posted 23 January 2017 - 09:21 AM

The Pottsville Maroons?



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 10:38 AM

The Pottsville Maroons?

On the right track, but they folded before 1933.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

Pro football started having a championship game in 1933. The cities that have at some point been eligible, but have never won a title are...

 

1. Cincinnati (Reds/Bengals). 51 seasons

2. Atlanta (Falcons) 50 seasons. 51 if they don't win in two weeks

3. Phoenix/Arizona (Cardinals). 29 seasons

4. Charlotte/Carolina (Panthers). 22 seasons

5. Jacksonville (Jaguars). 22 seasons

6. Nashville/Tennessee (Oilers/Titans). 20 seasons

 

7. Brooklyn (Dodgers/Tigers) 12 seasons. Maybe Brooklyn is a neighborhood, part of New York City, whatever. They played from 1930-1944 before merging with the Boston Yanks when there was a player shortage because of WWII in 1945. The Boston Yanks became the New York Bulldogs, who became the New York Yanks, who became the Dallas Texans for one year before folding up for good in 1952 after going 1-11. (A different "Dallas Texans" would be created for the AFL by Lamar Hunt, which then became the Kansas City Chiefs). Many of the players who were unemployed after the Dallas Texans closed in 1952, found work with another team that re-opened in 1953. The Baltimore Colts. Among the Texans who became Colts are Hall of Famers Art Donovan and Gino Marchetti.

 

8. Portsmouth (Spartans) 1 season. They existed from 1930-1933, and are the reason we have a championship game now. Before 1933, the Champion was just the team with the best record. When they tied the Chicago Bears in 1932, it created an impromptu playoff game. Blizzard conditions made it impossible to play at Wrigley Field, so they played indoors on what was only an 80 yard "field" with shorter end zones and the goal posts moved up to the goal line. An advent fans liked so they kept it that way for a while. The Bears won 9-0, the impromptu game was counted in the final standings, so Portsmouth actually finished the season in 3rd place behind the Green Bay Packers.


In 1933 the league split into two divisions and the first scheduled Pro Football Championship was won by the Bears over the New York Giants. In 1934, the Portsmouth Spartans moved to Detroit and were renamed the Lions. The Lions have won 4 NFL titles in 83 seasons, but none in the Super Bowl era.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:28 AM

Back to the other question, which two cities have the highest percentage of total seasons resulting in a pro football championship?

So if a city had amassed 10 seasons and won 5 titles, 50% of their seasons would end in titles. Also, when I say "city" I mean what the team goes by. So "New York Jets/Giants" city is New York. Not "East Rutherford".

 

So top two pro football cities in championship percentage, since 1933?


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:44 AM

CFL count?  Baltimore one of them?


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Green Bay seems like one.  I'm going to say Baltimore is the other, but maybe Chicago?


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 12:22 PM

Green Bay seems like one.  I'm going to say Baltimore is the other, but maybe Chicago?

Bingo.

 

Was not counting CFL, USFL, AAFC. Just NFL and AFL.

 

Since 1933, Green Bay has won 10 Championships in 84 seasons. 11.9% of their seasons result in a title.

 

Baltimore has won 6 championships in 53 seasons. (NFL Championships in 1958, 1959, 1968. Super Bowls in 1970 (V), 2000 (XXXV) and 2012 (XLVII). 11.3% of our seasons ended in a championship. 

 

Not bad Baltimore. Not bad. 

 

Chicago has 8 titles in 111 seasons between the Bears and Cardinals. (7.2%) 3rd place is actually Dallas who has 6 titles in 61 years between the Texans and Cowboys. (9.8%)


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 12:26 PM

Baltimore, 11.3% with 6 titles in 53 years.

Pittsburgh, 7.1% with 6 titles in 84 years.

 

Suck it Pittsburgh. 


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 01:07 PM

In the other 3 major sports...

 

MLB since 1903 (1994 season omitted): New York has the highest Championship percentage with 34 titles among the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Highlanders, in 226 combined seasons. 15.5%

 

If the Brooklyn Dodgers went by "New York" Dodgers, they would still have 34 titles (take one away from the Yankees) and account for 281 seasons of MLB. 12.1%

 

St. Louis Cardinals is the runner up at 11 titles in 113 seasons. 9.7%

 

BAA/ABA/NBA Since 1946: Boston has 17 titles over 70 seasons with the Celtics. 24.3%. Nuts.

 

NHL Since 1926: The Montreal Maroons/Canadiens account for 23 Cups in 101 seasons. 22.8%. 


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 02:15 PM

8. Portsmouth (Spartans) 1 season. They existed from 1930-1933, and are the reason we have a championship game now. Before 1933, the Champion was just the team with the best record. When they tied the Chicago Bears in 1932, it created an impromptu playoff game. Blizzard conditions made it impossible to play at Wrigley Field, so they played indoors on what was only an 80 yard "field" with shorter end zones and the goal posts moved up to the goal line. An advent fans liked so they kept it that way for a while. The Bears won 9-0, the impromptu game was counted in the final standings, so Portsmouth actually finished the season in 3rd place behind the Green Bay Packers.

 

Where the goal posts have been...

 

Goal posts were moved from the goal line to the back of the endzone in 1927 (college ball, which the NFL copied)...

 

Due to complaints of low-scoring games (too boring), they were moved up to the goal line in 1933.

 

Somewhere around 1960, instead of having 2 uprights go straight down into the ground, dogleg supports kept the uprights over the goal line while moving the ground-level posts back a couple yards (to lessen interference with goal-line plays).

 

Due to complaints about too-easy FG's causing wimpy O-approaches (too boring), they were moved to back of the endzone in 1974.


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