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[DJ MC]

Trump's lead in the delegate count is a bit of an illusion. Since Super Tuesday, he's won eight primaries with less than 40% of the vote, and he's only won two overall with more than 50%-- New York, and the Northern Marianas Islands.

He's getting some extra people to come out and vote, sure. But, I have to wonder how many people there are like me, who are Republicans but won't vote for either Trump or Cruz in the general, and if Trump is the nominee will think seriously about voting for Hillary.

[SportsGuy]

Trump's lead in the delegate count is a bit of an illusion. Since Super Tuesday, he's won eight primaries with less than 40% of the vote, and he's only won two overall with more than 50%-- New York, and the Northern Marianas Islands.

He's getting some extra people to come out and vote, sure. But, I have to wonder how many people there are like me, who are Republicans but won't vote for either Trump or Cruz in the general, and if Trump is the nominee will think seriously about voting for Hillary.

I do think a lot of people feel this way.

I also think people feel the same way on the other side when Hilary wins the nominee.

For all the talk of the republicans wanting Cruz, the guy they should want is Kasich IMO. He can beat her. He should win Ohio, which the republicans need(never won with if).

I'm still amazed that they couldn't come up with a better candidate. They should have learned after Romney. His nomination was on a silver platter and his campaign was awful. The party hasn't learned about the type of person people want to vote for now.

They still want to fit their candidate in the same round hole they always have but it's a different country now.

I give a lot of credit to democrats for realizing that and I give them a lot of credit for being a pretty United party. They know what to say to get the votes. People believe their lies more than the republican lies.

[RShack]

And the funny thing is that the press back then was even worse.

 

Not really...  campaigns got uglier... but that was mainly just about elections.

There was not any force directed at making everybody afraid of everything outside their house like there is now...

 

Plus, back then the press helped distribute the content of the Federalist Papers, which is how the Constitution got sold to everybody, despite the fact that it was definitely a "big government" move compared to the Articles of Confederation...  so, while Madison and Hamilton disagreed about almost everything about it, they agreed that moving in that direction was necessary, so they cooperated to sell it to everybody... and the press loomed large in Actual Debate about that...

[SportsGuy]

Legalize them and tax the hell out of them.

Everyone wants to steal money from the rich to help everyone, which is certifiably insane.

But here is a way to help all of those programs...as well as crime.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Yeah it's certifiably insane to tell the top 1% they can't have it all... that when the top 1% has more money than the other 99% combined there is a YUUUUUUUUGE problem.

People point to socialismz, but they don't seem to mind our infrastructure. Let's be real... I pay more for the road and bridges than a fast food worker... but we all get to use them all the same.

Sorry Stoner, but this is the second time he's gone after this issue and I strongly feel that one of the more inspirational and courageous politicians in a generation deserves to be defended against nonsense like that.

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[KWebz]

Never discount the power of the women vote. Women will be the difference makers in the primary if it's Trump v Hillary. Not because women will vote for a woman, but because Trump is so terribly unpopular with women. I always feel that republicans have a hard time getting the women vote because of social issues and inherent misogynist views that many republican men have. Trump is the most extreme candidate in this regard. But that is the thing about Trump. He gives this population of largely white men who feel they are losing power (which they are) a voice in their extreme misogynist and racist opinions. His extreme views have given the okay for people to go public with their hatred. People hate Hillary to be sure but she does not instigate hatred against others like Trump does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[SammyBirdland]

Legalization of drugs is a great idea, as long as they are also made free of charge.  Otherwise, the same group of men who use them as products today will use them as currency tomorrow.   Junkies will still be desperate for the drugs and they won't have the means to go to 7-11 and buy them, because they are junkies.  So, women will still be enslaved to prostitution and people will still be desperate enough to commit burglary/robbery/murder to get the drugs.   Drugs make people desperate, and that is the crux of the problem.  There will always be bad people out there willing to capitalize on that desperation.

[KWebz]

Legalize them and tax the hell out of them. Everyone wants to steal money from the rich to help everyone, which is certifiably insane. But here is a way to help all of those programs...as well as crime.

I support this decision.

[Mike in STL]

Where am I? I thought this was BSL, but then I saw the politics thread and figured I got lost. 

[BSLChrisStoner]

Might be valid Sam.

If most people agreed, would be fine by me if there was no tax revenue. Still would be vast savings without the war on drugs, criminalization, etc.

[RShack]

Legalization of drugs is a great idea, as long as they are also made free of charge.  Otherwise, the same group of men who use them as products today will use them as currency tomorrow.   Junkies will still be desperate for the drugs and they won't have the means to go to 7-11 and buy them, because they are junkies.  So, women will still be enslaved to prostitution and people will still be desperate enough to commit burglary/robbery/murder to get the drugs.   Drugs make people desperate, and that is the crux of the problem.  There will always be bad people out there willing to capitalize on that desperation.

 

Well, it kinda depends on how much you decide to tax them... because the drugs themselves are inherently dirt cheap if not for the illegal aspect... 

[SportsGuy]

Yeah it's certifiably insane to tell the top 1% they can't have it all... that when the top 1% has more money than the other 99% combined there is a YUUUUUUUUGE problem.

People point to socialismz, but they don't seem to mind our infrastructure. Let's be real... I pay more for the road and bridges than a fast food worker... but we all get to use them all the same.

Sorry Stoner, but this is the second time he's gone after this issue and I strongly feel that one of the more inspirational and courageous politicians in a generation deserves to be defended against nonsense like that.

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Just because they have money, doesn't mean they should have it stolen from them. It's that simple.

And yes, that's exactly what you want to do....steal.

[RShack]

Just because they have money, doesn't mean they should have it stolen from them. It's that simple.

And yes, that's exactly what you want to do....steal.

 

This is how conversations go to hell....

[You Play to Win the Game]

I think Bernie supporters will rally behind Hillary, even if she is crooked, which she is. She's a pro politician, and the ultimate panderer. But obviously I much prefer to put someone in there who isn't going to set us back a decade or three. I just wish it were someone else. I firmly believe she is a bad person, who has supported horrible policies, but who is going to advance many of the things that are important to me nevertheless.

[SportsGuy]

If they are doing illegal things(which they are), punish them legally.


But stealing from them is insane.

If the money was being used well, it may be different. But it's not.

Half of the money my wife and I make gets stolen and a lot of it goes to bullshit.

Maybe you like that and that's fine. I fucking hate it.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Rob - many people in the top 1% have stolen that money, just not directly. Many of these companies exploit the IRS, file for bankruptcy like it's going out of style to avoid certain debts, and ultimately over charge for whatever product it is they are selling to ensure all new wealth goes their way instead of anywhere else. It's uber greed, and totally unnecessary to have billions of dollars. It just is. And the only way I've seen that they are able to do this is by exploiting others.

 

Here's a good read on how these people continue to get richer with exclusive advantages...

 

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/09/

[SportsGuy]

And who are you to say what is or isn't neccassary? That attitude is insane.

[BSLChrisStoner]

 

 

 

If this the model you support... why didn't it work?

 

NY Mag.com: The Republican Party Must Answer for What It Did to Kansas and Louisiana
http://nymag.com/dai...-to-kansas.html

[DuffMan]

Jack Mehoff, 19, praised Trump as a "hardworking, smart individual that wants the best for all people in this country that are allowed to be here."

Come on Ian Duncan contact reporter for  "The Sun", you're buying that name?

 

http://www.baltimore...0420-story.html

[SportsGuy]

That's just awesome.