Lottery
#1
Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:21 AM
#2
Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:33 AM
#3
Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:54 AM
Just prefer to go in inverse order of their records like the MLB/NFL for non-playoff teams?Used to think it was cool, now think it is one of the worst things in sports.
#4
Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:57 AM
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There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
#5
Posted 30 May 2012 - 11:04 AM
Yep seems to be a common theme, I loved Irene Pollin's reaction a few years back when we got the number one pick.When you're a Wizards' fan the lottery is one of the highlights of your year.
#6
Posted 30 May 2012 - 11:15 AM
Just prefer to go in inverse order of their records like the MLB/NFL for non-playoff teams?
Yeah, I think it is criminal that Charlotte (7-59) could be bounced from that #1 spot for Houston (34-32). Obviously the odds become astronomical that it will happen, but I don't like that it could.
#7
Posted 30 May 2012 - 11:16 AM
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
#8
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:03 PM
I saw someone joke that for a team that doesn't do a lot of "winning," they'll have to win this (paraphrasing). Doesn't bother me at all. I don't think any team does this, but actually bothers me how teams who "royally suck" for a while get rewarded. Case and point: the Nats in the 2009/10 seasons, they arguably the best players in a generation in two consecutive years. It wouldn't bother me as much if you couldn't get the number one pick two years in a row, but I think the lottery is a fair way to ensure against collusion. Again that doesn't happen because players don't care about who will be in the team next year, but still.
Just prefer to go in inverse order of their records like the MLB/NFL for non-playoff teams?
Yeah, I think it is criminal that Charlotte (7-59) could be bounced from that #1 spot for Houston (34-32). Obviously the odds become astronomical that it will happen, but I don't like that it could.
#9
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:39 PM
I don't disagree but it does stop you from tanking the end of a season.
Just prefer to go in inverse order of their records like the MLB/NFL for non-playoff teams?
Yeah, I think it is criminal that Charlotte (7-59) could be bounced from that #1 spot for Houston (34-32). Obviously the odds become astronomical that it will happen, but I don't like that it could.
Of course, I say who cares about that but a lot of people do.
#10
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:55 PM
When you're a Wizards' fan the lottery is one of the highlights of your year.
This.
I'm incredibly excited for the lottery tonight. It's not even so much about what pick the Wizards get, but after this, you can really start envisioning who they will be adding to the team. When you're a team as poor as the Wizards, this pick is going to be a guy that comes in and gets minutes right away.
@AdamWolff
#11
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:59 PM
1. 19.9 percent
2. 18.8 percent
3. 17.1 percent
4. 31.9 percent
5. 12.3 percent
Fortunately this draft is very solid and, after Anthony Davis, the rest of the top 10 is really up for debate.
@AdamWolff
#12
Posted 30 May 2012 - 01:40 PM
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
#13
Posted 30 May 2012 - 01:57 PM
Honestly, if the Wizards miss out on Davis and end up with MKG I will not be sad. I think MKG could end up being the best prospect in the draft, especially if Davis doesn't fill out into an NBA body and spends his days getting abused by bigger centers (can you imagine Davis trying his offensive game right now against Dwight Howard or Kendrick Perkins? Massacre.)
I think JaVale has made me skeptical of athletic, skinny big men. I know Davis is more talented by a pretty wide margin (and especially when compared to a younger JaVale), but it's just in the back of my mind.
So yeah, I completely agree with you Pedro. I think Davis is the best player and has the best shot at being the best NBA player, but I'm not sure it's as much of a slam dunk as everyone seems to think. I'm a big fan of MKG as well. A lot of talk I've seen has matched the Wizards with Brad Beal. I honestly didn't get to watch him enough to formulate an opinion, but it's just further illustration of how muddied the waters are after the #1 pick. I think Beal could go anywhere from #2 to #10.
@AdamWolff
#14
Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:05 PM
Beal is the guy who is going to be a beast.Honestly, if the Wizards miss out on Davis and end up with MKG I will not be sad. I think MKG could end up being the best prospect in the draft, especially if Davis doesn't fill out into an NBA body and spends his days getting abused by bigger centers (can you imagine Davis trying his offensive game right now against Dwight Howard or Kendrick Perkins? Massacre.)
This is a really good draft.
#15
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:05 PM
I saw someone joke that for a team that doesn't do a lot of "winning," they'll have to win this (paraphrasing). Doesn't bother me at all. I don't think any team does this, but actually bothers me how teams who "royally suck" for a while get rewarded. Case and point: the Nats in the 2009/10 seasons, they arguably the best players in a generation in two consecutive years. It wouldn't bother me as much if you couldn't get the number one pick two years in a row, but I think the lottery is a fair way to ensure against collusion. Again that doesn't happen because players don't care about who will be in the team next year, but still.
American professional sports is based on parity. If you are going to have that type of league, you need a system that funnels the best players to the worst teams to help them improve. That's why the drafts work like they do. It's also why the NBA has a lottery system in place, because it is the sport most likely to lend itself to the collusion you mention and needs this to balance things out.
#16
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:08 PM
Honestly, if the Wizards miss out on Davis and end up with MKG I will not be sad. I think MKG could end up being the best prospect in the draft, especially if Davis doesn't fill out into an NBA body and spends his days getting abused by bigger centers (can you imagine Davis trying his offensive game right now against Dwight Howard or Kendrick Perkins? Massacre.)
Shouldn't Davis primarily play the 4? You're right that he's likely not big enough to play against the big centers.
#17
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:22 PM
Really collusion can happen in any sport. The coaches who aren't going to be there, don't care about the players they won't coach. The players who are playing for their jobs, don't care about the teammates they won't have. I remember this being discussed with the "Bush Bowl" some years back when they thought Bush would go #1 (it was Mario Williams).I saw someone joke that for a team that doesn't do a lot of "winning," they'll have to win this (paraphrasing). Doesn't bother me at all. I don't think any team does this, but actually bothers me how teams who "royally suck" for a while get rewarded. Case and point: the Nats in the 2009/10 seasons, they arguably the best players in a generation in two consecutive years. It wouldn't bother me as much if you couldn't get the number one pick two years in a row, but I think the lottery is a fair way to ensure against collusion. Again that doesn't happen because players don't care about who will be in the team next year, but still.
American professional sports is based on parity. If you are going to have that type of league, you need a system that funnels the best players to the worst teams to help them improve. That's why the drafts work like they do. It's also why the NBA has a lottery system in place, because it is the sport most likely to lend itself to the collusion you mention and needs this to balance things out.
The NHL has a lottery system too, it's just more weighted from what I understand. I think with the new CBA in baseball, there's some sort of lottery for a handful of picks.
As I said I like the lottery system, it doesn't just reward bad teams for being bad. Some people understandably disagree with this and think bad teams should be rewarded with the top picks no matter what.
#18
Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:14 PM
But here I am, waiting to see what team's logo comes out of the letter. The popularity is there, so maybe it's worth keeping.
#19
Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:18 PM
13. PHO
12. MIL
11. POR
10. NO
9. DET
8. TOR
7. GS
6. POR
5. SAC
4. CLE
Hornets, Wizards, Bobcats will be in top 3.
#20
Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:22 PM
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