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Ultimately I have no problem with cutting him. But I think the Orioles have been their usual arrogant selves throughout this whole process. They could have handled this a lot better and maybe Kim would've accepted a demotion to AAA or AA. But now it looks like he's gone, we're out $7 million and another team could sign him and stash him at MiL with nothing to lose. It seems to me like the Orioles are back to their old"our way or the highway" mentality when there's dozens of other teams out there willing to spend more and have the better infrastructure to develop players. That mentality reminds me of 1998-2011, which unfortunately I think we're heading towards again.

He's  likely not going to go sign in a minor league deal with another team when he can go back to Korea and make an additional 3+ mil this year. It's business, just like the Gonzo release was business.

He's not likely not going to go sign in a minor league deal with another team when he can go back to Korea and make an additional 3+ mil this year. It's business, just like the Gonzo release was business.

 

If we cut him he's making $7 million regardless.

 

I bet he would sign a MiL contract with another team, partly to stick it to the Orioles and partly because the word was that he didn't want to go back to Korea.

I bet he would sign a MiL contract with another team, partly to stick it to the Orioles and partly because the word was that he didn't want to go back to Korea.

 

I presume the deal that he signed with the Os said that he can't be offered arbitration (must be released) after it ends. Can he get another deal in the states with that clause? If so, he'll hit FA at 30 and be able to get a market level deal. If not, he'll be 34 when he hits FA and won't be able to get big cash.

 

It's likely a moot point, but it has to be something for him to consider.

But I think the Orioles have been their usual arrogant selves throughout this whole process. They could have handled this a lot better and maybe Kim would've accepted a demotion to AAA or AA.

 

I don't have a problem with how the O's did things here ethically, at least as far as what has been reported.  But agree completely with this part.  I imagine some tact and thoughtfulness could have gone a long way towards convincing Kim to accept the assignment.  Maybe not, and there will be no way to know for sure, but it definitely seems like the O's often have troubles with communication with some of their players.

Right, the question is if the leak was intentional or non-intentional. If it was intentional, the Orioles were bums about this.

 

If it wasn't intentional, someone in the front office is a bum and kind of screwed the O's. Hard to differentiate which of those it was though. 

I presume the deal that he signed with the Os said that he can't be offered arbitration (must be released) after it ends. Can he get another deal in the states with that clause? If so, he'll hit FA at 30 and be able to get a market level deal. If not, he'll be 34 when he hits FA and won't be able to get big cash.

 

It's likely a moot point, but it has to be something for him to consider.

 

I think he can probably get a team to agree to that clause.  He'll cost the new team nothing beyond the minimum, and that's only if he makes their squad.  If the O's release him, my guess is he signs a minor league deal with one of the other teams that was kicking the tires on him before the O's signed him.  That minor league deal will include an opt-out in June or July if he hasn't been activated and also will include language that he become a free agent after two (or three years) rather than be part of the service time system.

 

It's not that I think teams will bend over backwards for him, but rather the risk is so low financially that it doesn't hurt to take a shot if anybody else thinks there may be something there.

Good for Kim.   Exactly what he should have done.    The Orioles manager doesn't think he's ML material.   Why stay in an organization whose manager thinks you are so bad that he was able to make the decision half way through ST and stopped playing you.   It's not his fault that the Orioles signed him to a stupid contract that allowed him to refuse the minor league assignment.    If they had shown him any kind of respect and backing he might have done it.     Why do it when the organization has already give up on you?

Sounds like they are gonna carry him on the roster now. Wonder if that means Reimold is out.

Sounds like they are gonna carry him on the roster now. Wonder if that means Reimold is out.

Why would he be out?

He's got guaranteed money and was decent in the spring.

Sounds like they are gonna carry him on the roster now. Wonder if that means Reimold is out.

 

Doubt it, he's actually one of the better defensive OF we have right now, as sad as that is. (Kim, Trumbo)

I believe it comes down to taking two of Kim, Reimold, and Avery, who has had a very good Spring, but against unusually weak competition.

Right, sounds like Kim is in now and it's between Avery an Reimold. 

Avery being considered is a joke.

The amount of weight put on ST is horrendous.

Avery being considered is a joke.

The amount of weight put on ST is horrendous.

 

His numbers over the course of his career are good for a 4th or 5th OFer. He is an athlete with speed.  He came into ST ready to go.

Rickard looks like he's going to be the starter.  

When looking at this guy, I think you have to take that into consideration.

Avery being considered is a joke.

The amount of weight put on ST is horrendous.

 

Agreed, nobody with a career 77 wRC+ and .288 wOBA should be making the Orioles.  Reimold is at least league average.

 

BTW my take on the Kim situation for Eutaw Street Report is here:

 

http://eutawstreetre...emotion-fiasco/

His numbers over the course of his career are good for a 4th or 5th OFer. He is an athlete with speed.  He came into ST ready to go.

Rickard looks like he's going to be the starter.  

When looking at this guy, I think you have to take that into consideration.

The Orioles need someone who may be starting.  Reimold is clearly the guy here.

 

Let's see Rickard play real baseball and see the league adjusting to him and how he adjusts before we give him anything.

 

Reimold has shown he can be a productive MLer IF (big if) he can stay healthy.

 

Guys like Avery are a dime a dozen.  We can send him down and he will stay in the organization and if not, go pick up another one.  Its not difficult.

The Orioles need someone who may be starting.  Reimold is clearly the guy here.

 

Let's see Rickard play real baseball and see the league adjusting to him and how he adjusts before we give him anything.

 

Reimold has shown he can be a productive MLer IF (big if) he can stay healthy.

 

Guys like Avery are a dime a dozen.  We can send him down and he will stay in the organization and if not, go pick up another one.  Its not difficult.

 

Isn't that what a 4th or 5th OFer is?

Again, I see your point in the above quoted post, but we're not talking Avery for starting consideration, and neither is Buck.

The question of LF should have and probably would have (Fowler) been answered in the offseason - right now the question for Avery is backup.  He provides value in that role, and arguably more than any other player on the O's roster right now.  Definitely more than Kim. 

 

On the other hand, the 107 AB sample size quoted by JTrea is pathetically small.  As a comparison, Bradley (who is one year younger) has posted wRC+'s of 68 and 46 over his 1st 530 ABs.  He did bounce back last year to post off the top of my head a 121 wRC+ in a little over 200 ABs.  We have seen time and time again that for some players there is just that point where they get it, and maybe Bradley's was last year, and maybe Avery's will be this year.  The worst that could happen here outside of injury is that Avery is pretty useless on the club outside of a defensive replacement, and Walker gets comfortable in LF in AAA, and is brought up in a couple of months.

Or the O's make a trade for someone. 

Everyone does not need to be a superstar for the past 10 years to provide value in 2016.

The Orioles need someone who may be starting.  Reimold is clearly the guy here.

 

Let's see Rickard play real baseball and see the league adjusting to him and how he adjusts before we give him anything.

 

Reimold has shown he can be a productive MLer IF (big if) he can stay healthy.

 

Guys like Avery are a dime a dozen.  We can send him down and he will stay in the organization and if not, go pick up another one.  Its not difficult.

 

I hope Jon Shepherd doesn't see this.