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#761 NewMarketSean

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:51 AM

Johnson's last 2-3 seasons were a lot like Rice's season last year. Getting tackled behind LOS, no YAC, losing that burst of speed, etc. It would be a lateral move and I guarantee he'd be unhappy with anything less than a top tier contract and a 1,500 season. No way.
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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:56 AM

Johnson's last 2-3 seasons were a lot like Rice's season last year. Getting tackled behind LOS, no YAC, losing that burst of speed, etc. It would be a lateral move and I guarantee he'd be unhappy with anything less than a top tier contract and a 1,500 season. No way.


The top tier RB contracts are gone. All you have to do is look around.
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Posted 05 April 2014 - 04:15 PM

Disagree. Terrible is exactly what he'd be.

He had one year where he was really bad in 2012. Other than that he has been far from terrible.


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Posted 05 April 2014 - 04:32 PM

He had one year where he was really bad in 2012. Other than that he has been far from terrible.

 

Not that far.  He's never had a positive season grade from PFF.



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:02 AM

I don't want to come off as in support of Chris Johnson, I'd like him on a cheap deal, he can do better than that I'm sure.  I'd rather get a guy like Andre Brown who is going to take a cheap deal potentially and if he's promised a role while Rice is out it'd be a nice deal for both sides.

 

Also, when PFF become gospel in these parts.  I know there aren't a lot of other sites that rate at the same level, but when a guy like Chris Johnson has never had a positive season grade, that seems a bit off to me.



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 02:41 PM

Not that far.  He's never had a positive season grade from PFF.

He is terrible at rushing the passer, where most of his negative grade comes from. As a situational run defender, that is only asked to play 10-15 snaps a game you can do a lot worse. It's not like he is costing a lot or is being guaranteed a roster spot either. He needs to stay healthy and prove he can be productive. I don't see any problem with this deal.


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 06:36 PM

He is terrible at rushing the passer, where most of his negative grade comes from. As a situational run defender, that is only asked to play 10-15 snaps a game you can do a lot worse. It's not like he is costing a lot or is being guaranteed a roster spot either. He needs to stay healthy and prove he can be productive. I don't see any problem with this deal.


Cody by most accounts has been a bust. Sadly he's just a big fat guy and doesn't have the strength to take on Olineman at the point of attack. I guess he's not terrible as a backup on a cheap deal unless one of your regulars falls and he has to primarily start.
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 06:46 PM

He is terrible at rushing the passer, where most of his negative grade comes from. As a situational run defender, that is only asked to play 10-15 snaps a game you can do a lot worse. It's not like he is costing a lot or is being guaranteed a roster spot either. He needs to stay healthy and prove he can be productive. I don't see any problem with this deal.

 

Going off advanced stats, since he doesn't play many snaps, his Run Stop percentage has been meh to bad as well.



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Posted 07 April 2014 - 09:22 AM

Just watched some Cody tape to find a silver lining. I can't quite figure out why the Ravens would want Cody. Cheap? Yes. But Brandon Williams is young, cheap, and can do as much as Cody, and more. Cody is literally a one-down player. He rarely plays any downs outside of first. At the POA, he is really just a body. He no longer gets pushed backwards despite his tendency to stand up at the snap, so that's a plus. But he creates no movement and can be contained by one blocker.

I will watch more of him, but I can't quite see his value.
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Posted 07 April 2014 - 10:03 AM

Cody by most accounts has been a bust. Sadly he's just a big fat guy and doesn't have the strength to take on Olineman at the point of attack. I guess he's not terrible as a backup on a cheap deal unless one of your regulars falls and he has to primarily start.


I agree with this for the most part, but apparently he is healthy for the first time in a while. He has shown flashes of ability in run defense though. It's a one year deal with little value, so I don't see the downside. Its not like there is a roaring market for backup NTs our there.
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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:40 PM

Ravens still 6.32 million under cap after Daniels, Cody and Forsett. It's funny that Koch is the 11 highest player on the roster. Me thinks we need to find a punter in the draft.



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