Observation is the best tool. I would have always told you Sanchez sucked even when he was winning games. I've been on record saying someone like Schaub and Dalton don't have what it takes to win a SB. I guess they could be a Trent Dilfer type if their defense was really dominant. They aren't going to carry an offense like Joe did last year or like he did in the AFC Cham game two years ago. So in that sense, winning isn't the only thing. You happy, you got me there. That said, QB is still the most important position in sports and you cant deny 5 years in a row. 9 postseason wins at 28 yrs old, a SB ring, etc,etcSo record tells you more about a QB than does the stats? Or watching them play? Oh, and you realize those 4 guys you mention have the best stats too right? But Brees was a mediocre at best QB last year right? I mean the team was below .500, forget that his head coach was suspended and the D sucked. If the Ravens go 8-8 this year because the receivers suck, the D takes a while to gel, the ST regresses, etc, will Joe be a worse QB than he was previously, even going all the way back to his rookie year? Or will the team around him just not be as good?
I guess you really like Andy Dalton and Matt Schaub a lot more than you let on. Mark Sanchez was quite good earlier in his career too. Oh, and those running QB's you love so much in the Gang of Four all had good win loss records too. Vince Young too.
You act like such a QB know it all, so why not just judge them by how they actually play? You have that ability right? To watch a game and judge how well a QB played? If so, why muddle that with how well the rest of the roster performed and how the coaching staff did?
It all catches up to you eventually if you really are a poor to mediocre QB. It caught up with Vince Young, it caught up with Mark Sanchez, it will catch up with Matt Schaub, (not that he wasn't a 7-8 win QB numerous times before his defense got really, really good last year).
And you know what, it'll catch up with Flacco to a point too because he cant carry a team tot the playoffs like the HOF caliber Qbs in this league. I've always said its a matter of time until he misses the playoffs just like Big Ben and Eli. The two QBs I closely associate him. That said, there is a reason why these guys make the playoffs more often than they don't. there is a reason they raise their game in the playoffs and have rings on their fingers. There are guys whoyou just call winners despite not having flashy numbers. One day you'll get that through your head, or not.
I could say a lot of things here, but I'll keep it brief. First off you're arguing against a point I didn't make just like in you're initial response to me in this thread. One day you'll get it through your head to stop making up points to argue with.
Anyway, to defend myself against this made up point that I don't value any of that stuff at all:
Where did I put Flacco on my QB list? I'll refresh your memory and tell you he was at 8. Now if I were only looking at stats, where would he approximately be? Big difference right? So the logical reason for that difference, and the one I explained on the podcast that I think you listened to is that I do give him credit for winning a SB, playing well in the playoffs, and winning a lot of games. So the question is are you logical enough to get that?
