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[Chris B]

2013 Jaworski QB Rankings Rank QB QBR

7 Ben Roethlisberger 62.8

8 Eli Manning 67.4

9 Matt Schaub 62.6

10 Andrew Luck 65.0

11 Colin Kaepernick 76.8

12 Russell Wilson 69.6

13 Robert Griffin III 71.4

14 Jay Cutler 51.9

15 Tony Romo 62.7

16 Matthew Stafford 58.9

17 Philip Rivers 40.6

18 Cam Newton 54.2

19 Andy Dalton 50.7

20 Alex Smith 70.1

21 Josh Freeman 53.1

22 Sam Bradford 51.6

23 Carson Palmer 44.7

24 Ryan Tannehill 52.3

25 Michael Vick 46.0

26 Brandon Weeden 26.6

27 Christian Ponder 53.8

28 Mark Sanchez 23.4

29 Chad Henne 29.9

30 Kevin Kolb 38.0

31 Jake Locker 48.1

32 Matt Flynn 23.4

 

Still to be ranked: Flacco, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Ryan, Brady

 

Agree/disagree with his list so far?


 

[Icterus galbula]

I love Joe, but I wouldn't put him over Eli or Roethlisberger yet. Certainly wouldn't put Matt Ryan over those two either.

[Mike in STL]

Matt Schaub is a little high, right?

[Mike in STL]

It looks like when he picked one rookie, he had no choice but to pick the rest. (Except for Weeden) Like TEs in a fantasy draft. I would flip RG3 and Schaub. Put Eli at 5, Flacco 6, Ryan 7, Ben 8.

[SportsGuy]

Agree that Schaub is too high...I would have Ben higher than Eli/Joe/Ryan.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Agree that Schaub is too high...I would have Ben higher than Eli/Joe/Ryan.

 

If this is a "Going forward" list, would you? 

 

I mean, Ben hasn't been great for a few years now, and just keeps getting hurt. Joe hasn't missed a snap (other than some mop-up duty for Tyrod).

 

If it's who's been the best so far on this list, then definitely Ben. If it's, assuming everyone on this list is 100% healthy all year, Ben is also higher. I just don't think that's an assumption I'd be willing to make at this point.

[SportsGuy]

If this is a "Going forward" list, would you? 

 

I mean, Ben hasn't been great for a few years now, and just keeps getting hurt. Joe hasn't missed a snap (other than some mop-up duty for Tyrod).

 

If it's who's been the best so far on this list, then definitely Ben. If it's, assuming everyone on this list is 100% healthy all year, Ben is also higher. I just don't think that's an assumption I'd be willing to make at this point.

Yea probably...I guess it depends on how you define going forward.

[DJ MC]

Yea probably...I guess it depends on how you define going forward.

You mean total career versus rest of career, right?

[SportsGuy]

You mean total career versus rest of career, right?

Ben could easily have a number of very good years left in him.

 

Not to mention, if Pitt goes back to running the ball more and their line stays healthy, he should be much more protected this year.

[Pedro Cerrano]

I can't believe he ranked Brandon Weeden over Christian Ponder.

 

I stopped reading the list after that.

[bnickle]

Ponder is a complete bum. Weeden very well might be too but I have no problem with Weeden over Ponder.

[Cisc-O's]

I can't believe he ranked Brandon Weeden over Christian Ponder.

 

I stopped reading the list after that.

 

Weeden actually looked really good against us last year.  Ponder had a better line and a better RB it is kind of a toss up.

[DJ MC]

Weeden actually looked really good against us last year.  Ponder had a better line and a better RB it is kind of a toss up.

 

However, Weeden is 29.

 

However,  Ponder went to Florida State.

 

Yeah, still a toss-up...

[NewMarketSean]

Going forward, I definitely put Flacco ahead of Eli and Ben.

 

But if it was going forward, I'd put him above Manning, Brady and maybe even Brees.

 

I just think this list is showing how much Jaworski loves Flacco and how he differs from the rest of the media pundits.

[Cisc-O's]

Going forward, I definitely put Flacco ahead of Eli and Ben.

 

But if it was going forward, I'd put him above Manning, Brady and maybe even Brees.

 

I just think this list is showing how much Jaworski loves Flacco and how he differs from the rest of the media pundits.

I think its just going forward into next year not the rest of their careers.  So its a list based off of past performance but what they are going to do this year.  Its funny as this list unfolds watching "Gasp" First Take and watching them squirm and wiggle because the guy they respect and admire is rating Flacco high and to quote them "I am uncomfertable with it but I have to listen to what Jaws says because he knows better then me"

[Pedro Cerrano]

Ponder is a complete bum. Weeden very well might be too but I have no problem with Weeden over Ponder.

  

Weeden actually looked really good against us last year.  Ponder had a better line and a better RB it is kind of a toss up.

[Cisc-O's]

  

[Matt]

It's a 2013 ranking list. To have Schaub as the #9 QB going into 2013 makes no sense at all. To have Flacco over Eli or Ben makes more sense than Schaub at #9.

[Luke Jackson]

These ranks are a little silly. If the Ravens lost in Denver, Joe's 14th or so. Ben might have been fifth last year, but since he got hurt this year (in the midst of another great year), he slides down. After Eli won his second Super Bowl, he'd be no lower than fifth or sixth. No one knows where to put Newton, Luck, RG3, Kaepernick or Wilson. They're dart throws. And so much of how these quarterbacks look and how their numbers stack up is dependent on scheme, personnel and environment that it's difficult to know if the seventh-ranked QB on the list would do better in Dallas than Romo. Or how much Romo would succeed in some place other than Dallas. I don't know, I suppose it's an exercise that gets the people going. 

[Mike B]

It is obvious Jaws places emphasis on winning as opposed to stats. and that is where Joe lands.  The top 6 are now going to IMO,

Rodgers, Brady, Peyton, Brees, Joe, and Ryan, probably in that order.   I have to admit I smiled a lot when Ben's name went up at 7.  Kind of enjoying Joe being rated ahead. 

 

In the end, it really means nothing but Jaws is a good listen, so it has been fun following this.