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[mweb08]

RT @ProFootballTalk: Per multiple reports, MRI shows no significant ligament damage in RG3's right knee.

[SportsGuy]

RT @ProFootballTalk: Per multiple reports, MRI shows no significant ligament damage in RG3's right knee.

Good news...but no significant damage doesn't mean he can play next week.

Hopefully he can.

[SportsGuy]

I never said it was likely. I said it was more likely than scoring, which I think is true. I think it was the right call to pack it in and go to OT. If they had 3 timeouts and could have taken 3 or 4 plays towards the middle, then it would've been a better chance of success and worth the risk.

The TO situation only means so much though.

You run a play anywhere you want and see if you can get 15-20 yards. If you can, you probably have 18 seconds to run a few plays to get another 15-20 yards. And with that much time, you could attack all areas of the field and get down and spike the ball.

No reason not to try. If the first play sucked or something like that, you kneel on it then.

Essentially, you had a free play to do what what you wanted.

If you don't trust Joe to not do something done, then there are even bigger problems on this team and in this organization.

[SportsGuy]

Yanda has an ankle injury...was in a walking boot after the game.

Wilson said the injury could be serious.

Sounds like a high ankle sprain. If he is out, we are in deep poop.

[NewMarketSean]

Let me say that I hope RGIII is not hurt. I really like him as a player...a great guy for the league and DC.

If Yanda is hurt, we're royally screwed.

[bnickle]

The breaks are evening out. We got them most of the year. Taking some bad ones the last few weeks. The Flacco Int easily could have fallen to the ground, the fumble on the KO return was inches away from being recovered by us. That would have won the game.

We're a 9 or 10 win team and things are evening out. Obviously, the defense is just in shambles right now. The offense has their issues but the defense just is horrible. Wash moved the ball up and down the field in the 1st half. In the 2nd half they kind of shot themselves in the foot with some penalties and such. What was there like 2 drives all game long where I felt the defense did their job. You let Kirk Cousins convert on 2nd and 20 and score a TD and 2 point conversion. And it was as easy as anything to do it.

[SportsGuy]

The breaks are evening out. We got them most of the year. Taking some bad ones the last few weeks. The Flacco Int easily could have fallen to the ground, the fumble on the KO return was inches away from being recovered by us. That would have won the game.

We're a 9 or 10 win team and things are evening out. Obviously, the defense is just in shambles right now. The offense has their issues but the defense just is horrible. Wash moved the ball up and down the field in the 1st half. In the 2nd half they kind of shot themselves in the foot with some penalties and such. What was there like 2 drives all game long where I felt the defense did their job. You let Kirk Cousins convert on 2nd and 20 and score a TD and 2 point conversion. And it was as easy as anything to do it.

Well, the injuries have evened out all of those breaks.

And now, Yanda, easily our best olineman could be out.

If he is, we will be in serious trouble vs that Denver D. Miller and Dumervil vs Oher, Reid, Williams and Osemele?

Put McKinnie in there and move Kelechi to guard.

[Mackus]

The TO situation only means so much though.

You run a play anywhere you want and see if you can get 15-20 yards. If you can, you probably have 18 seconds to run a few plays to get another 15-20 yards. And with that much time, you could attack all areas of the field and get down and spike the ball.

No reason not to try. If the first play sucked or something like that, you kneel on it then.

Essentially, you had a free play to do what what you wanted.

If you don't trust Joe to not do something done, then there are even bigger problems on this team and in this organization.

The TO situation means a ton. Turn it over there and you don't get to OT.

That one play would have to be a run, probably a draw. Any pass play and you bring a turnover into the mix. A 3-step drop to avoid a pass rush has a high risk of getting tipped by a smart-thinking lineman and picked off. A deep drop and you risk Oher getting burned again and Flacco losing the ball as he already had this game and did last week as well. I'm not suggesting either of those outcomes are more than outside chances, but so is getting 50+ yards downfield in 30 seconds.

[bnickle]

The turnovers were key. One was on Oher. Blame Joe at times in this game for not getting rid of the ball but that one he had no chance. The Int was on Joe. He has to have a hot read there. None of the WRs had turned their head to look for the ball which is why he held it, but that is his responsibility to have a hot read. Of course, there is a possibility that a WR missed his assignment to be the hot read. That is something we'll never know for sure. In general though, Joe has to get the ball out on blitzes sooner. See last week was different in some ways because Pitt was mainly rushing 4 guys. In that scenario, with them dropping so many and rushing 4 you have to assume your Oline does their job. Today there was a few times where Wash sent more than the Oline could block. that is completely on Joe to either get into the proper pass protect keeping Tes or RBs in to protect or getting the ball out quicker on hot routes.

Anytime a team losses the target is always on the QB. Joe basically kept the team in the game the 1st half. I mean it was a good mix of run and pass but he made some beautiful TD throws. The drive that put us up 8 late in the 4th he made a couple of crucial throws. IMO, despite the mistakes, he played well enough to win. Also, I would be remiss if I didn't put something on the coordinators. Again, you see a halftime adjustment from Wash and no counter from Baltimore. Hopefully, some people will learn that this coaching staff isn't very good. All of them.

[SportsGuy]

The TO situation means a ton. Turn it over there and you don't get to OT.

That one play would have to be a run, probably a draw. Any pass play and you bring a turnover into the mix. A 3-step drop to avoid a pass rush has a high risk of getting tipped by a smart-thinking lineman and picked off. A deep drop and you risk Oher getting burned again and Flacco losing the ball as he already had this game and did last week as well. I'm not suggesting either of those outcomes are more than outside chances, but so is getting 50+ yards downfield in 30 seconds.

You didn't have to get 50+..you had to go 40.

And you didn't have to run it...but a screen, whether WR bubble screen or one to Rice would have been a high percentage play.

You try to win it on the road.

[mweb08]

The turnovers were key. One was on Oher. Blame Joe at times in this game for not getting rid of the ball but that one he had no chance. The Int was on Joe. He has to have a hot read there. None of the WRs had turned their head to look for the ball which is why he held it, but that is his responsibility to have a hot read. Of course, there is a possibility that a WR missed his assignment to be the hot read. That is something we'll never know for sure. In general though, Joe has to get the ball out on blitzes sooner. See last week was different in some ways because Pitt was mainly rushing 4 guys. In that scenario, with them dropping so many and rushing 4 you have to assume your Oline does their job. Today there was a few times where Wash sent more than the Oline could block. that is completely on Joe to either get into the proper pass protect keeping Tes or RBs in to protect or getting the ball out quicker on hot routes.

Anytime a team losses the target is always on the QB. Joe basically kept the team in the game the 1st half. I mean it was a good mix of run and pass but he made some beautiful TD throws. The drive that put us up 8 late in the 4th he made a couple of crucial throws. IMO, despite the mistakes, he played well enough to win. Also, I would be remiss if I didn't put something on the coordinators. Again, you see a halftime adjustment from Wash and no counter from Baltimore. Hopefully, some people will learn that this coaching staff isn't very good. All of them.

I wouldn't say Joe basically kept them in the game the first half. The Ravens run game was dominate in the first half. And the coverage on all of those TD passes was very poor. I think he completed 4 (3 of which being the TD's) passes all game where he threw the ball more than about 5 yards past the line, and the receivers were very open each time. I may be forgetting one. He also missed Smith for a TD on a drive they ended up punting on. He had a good first half, but I think plenty of QB's could have had success considering how great the run game was, how open the receivers were, and how much time he had to throw the ball. He also had a first half fumble that they were fortunate enough to recover.

[bnickle]

I wouldn't say Joe basically kept them in the game the first half. The Ravens run game was dominate in the first half. And the coverage on all of those TD passes was very poor. I think he completed 4 (3 of which being the TD's) passes all game where he threw the ball more than about 5 yards past the line, and the receivers were very open each time. I may be forgetting one. He also missed Smith for a TD on a drive they ended up punting on. He had a good first half, but I think plenty of QB's could have had success considering how great the run game was, how open the receivers were, and how much time he had to throw the ball. He also had a first half fumble that they were fortunate enough to recover.

Of course you would say that. You are a Flacco hater. You have no clue what you're looking at when watching at QB play. You ride the jocks of the most mediocre- poor Qbs of any one person I have ever seen. Your boy RG3 puts up good numbers because of a gimmick offense that allows WRs to run wide competely open down the middle of the field. He's not a great thrower when put in conventional QB situations. Sure if teams never learn how to combat the option read than RG3 could end up being a great QB. Otherwise, jury still out. He holds the ball too long, is indecisive, and in accurate in a lot of normal QB situations. You crap yourself watching him play, projecting greatness, just like you crapped all over yourself when you saw Vince Young(LOL), Michael Vick 2.0(LOL), Jason Campbell(LOL) and a gazzilion other QBs. You are like every other fantast football fan out there. You get wowed by moments, fantasy football stats and small sample sizes. I've tried to be nice and civil but you have no ability to judge NFL QBs. You look for so many of the wrong things and see what you want to see from biased perspective. The funny thing is you call me biased and clearly you're the one more biased. My whole first paragraph was criticiziing Joe. The 2nd paragraph concludes that "he made mistakes but he played well enough to win" and you pick out the one part of the post where I gave Joe any praise at all and refute it and try to diminish it. Whatever, I refuse to talk about QBs with someone who has as bad a track record as you anymore.

[mweb08]

Haha, what a joke of a post. You're such a sensitive you know what about Flacco. Seriously, you have a problem.

You complain that Flacco's receivers never get separation and then when they get wide open, you don't even mention it and just talk about beautiful throws.

The rest of the post is just filled with flat lying and exaggerations. Well done.

[bnickle]

Haha, what a joke of a post. You're such a sensitive you know what about Flacco. Seriously, you have a problem.

You complain that Flacco's receivers never get separation and then when they get wide open, you don't even mention it and just talk about beautiful throws.

The rest of the post is just filled with flat lying and exaggerations. Well done.

I'm not lying at all. I know how much you fawned over medicore-poor QBs. Anyone who was on OH the last 7 years knows that.


I freaking take the majority of a post to criticize Joe Flacco in a game where he played well enough to win and you pick out one sentence where I gave him some props. Screw you. You're the one cherry picking and being biased. This is your MO.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Wowzers. This thread just got a whole lot more interesting.

On an unrelated note, kudos to the Skins' fans on here winning with class. There's a certain poster over on Foxhole who has issues with that.

[Pedro Cerrano]

I'll just say that I think Joe made some good throws in the first half but he was also aided by a really poor Skins secondary. So I guess you are both right in a way.

[SportsGuy]

Wowzers. This thread just got a whole lot more interesting.

On an unrelated note, kudos to the Skins' fans on here winning with class. There's a certain poster over on Foxhole who has issues with that.

Just one?

[BSLChrisStoner]

Tough game for the Ravens. Congrats to the Skins fans on the board.

I believe this board is full of great posters with good analysis. Most of you I've directly invited, because I've enjoyed reading your thoughts for years.

Nobody here has to love everyone else. You are always welcome to disagree with others, and debate. That is largely why the board exists. I do want people to treat each other with respect though.

I'm closing the thread down, because emotions are high. Let's ratchet down the tension a bit.