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BSL: Hays, Mullins, and Santander


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#1 BSLRoseKatz

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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:03 PM

https://baltimorespo...-and-santander/

 

Wrote about three players who debuted before Elias/Hyde, endured the tank years but now might also be facing uncertain futures in the next few years


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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:17 PM

You would hope Elias could extend at least 1 of them if he wanted to do so. He probably cant though. Without getting into too much thought on all of this I think trading 1, extending one, and letting one play out and walk feels about right. Hays would be in the trade/let walk pile. The other two I'd have all 3 options available though Ceds ability to play a legit CF and no apparent replacement ready in the minors makes me far less likely to have trade as an option for him the next 2 years. Bradfield almost surely isnt going to be ready by OD '25.
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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:47 PM

You would hope Elias could extend at least 1 of them if he wanted to do so. He probably cant though. Without getting into too much thought on all of this I think trading 1, extending one, and letting one play out and walk feels about right. Hays would be in the trade/let walk pile. The other two I'd have all 3 options available though Ceds ability to play a legit CF and no apparent replacement ready in the minors makes me far less likely to have trade as an option for him the next 2 years. Bradfield almost surely isnt going to be ready by OD '25.

 

Hays has a run through walls vibe that Kevin Kiermeier (sp) possesses, and frankly they get nicked up because of it. 

 

I'd definitely sell high on him if the return is right. 

 

Not sure how I feel about extending Santander. I definitely want to extend Cedric. 


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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:51 PM

Ceds '23 concerns me a bit as far as an extension. Its not hard for me to see steep decline by his FA years

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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:10 PM

Hopefully we get out of the Playoffs early so we can get a slightly better draft pick and then really begin discussion how to get rid of the players that just won 101 games because nothing will be better than getting Colton Cowser into the game every day next year.



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:10 PM

Ceds '23 concerns me a bit as far as an extension. Its not hard for me to see steep decline by his FA years

 

A groin / adductor tear/strain is going to hamper a guy whose main asset is his wheels / range. Still, he showed off a lot of that range when he came back. 

 

Yeah, he wasn't running out ground balls so much, but it is what it is. 



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:16 PM

Hopefully we get out of the Playoffs early so we can get a slightly better draft pick and then really begin discussion how to get rid of the players that just won 101 games because nothing will be better than getting Colton Cowser into the game every day next year.

 

Reductio ad absurdum. 


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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:17 PM

A groin / adductor tear/strain is going to hamper a guy whose main asset is his wheels / range. Still, he showed off a lot of that range when he came back.

Yeah, he wasn't running out ground balls so much, but it is what it is.

Injuries and speed only part of the concern. Also the offensive production. Again, talking more about his FA years vs the next 2. I wouldnt be betting on him going forward from his 31 yr old season on.

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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:19 PM

Ceds '23 concerns me a bit as far as an extension. Its not hard for me to see steep decline by his FA years

I'm not in a rush to extend him either. I will love rooting for him the next two years. Not sure how he will be in 2026 and especially in like 2028.



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:19 PM

Injuries and speed only part of the concern. Also the offensive production. Again, talking more about his FA years vs the next 2. I wouldnt be betting on him going forward from his 31 yr old season on.

 

I would only give him like 1 extra year past his last arb year.  After that I want to see where Bradfield is.

 

With how fast our farm is churning out prospects it'd be silly to extend him at age 32.



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:31 PM

So I guess Ive kinda backed myself into extending Santander if I stick to my trade one, extend one, let one walk idea. I do like Santanders bat the most going forward into his FA years. He should/will be a 1b/DH but the bat should be solid into his early 30s. Love that he is a switchy. Its such an advantage if you can truly be a threat from both sides like Rutsch and Santander are

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Posted 05 October 2023 - 10:33 PM

I would only give him like 1 extra year past his last arb year.  After that I want to see where Bradfield is.

 

With how fast our farm is churning out prospects it'd be silly to extend him at age 32.

 

Yeah I'm talking about extending him now a couple years past '25. 



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Posted 06 October 2023 - 09:44 AM

Hope everyone enjoys the stats about Cedric's 2021 relative to team performance, used Stathead from B-Ref for those






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