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2023 Game 93: 7/17 LA Dodgers 7:05PM


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#261 Slidemaster

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 10:42 AM

One pitch changes your whole narrative. It's just a coincidence. I don't think anyone feels like we can't play against NL teams. If we beat up on AL teams especially from the east and lose to NL teams I'll take that.

On top of that your point is that we might get to the World Series and only be playing .500 against the NL. That's a "problem" I'd love to have.


It's baseball. Games are often decided by one pitch. I think this is a really good team that can make it to the world series, but they have to play better against NL competition.

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 10:47 AM

It's baseball. Games are often decided by one pitch. I think this is a really good team that can make it to the world series, but they have to play better against NL competition.

In fairness they just swept a good Marlin team.  The Dodgers are really good.  They have a 300 M dollar payroll and it shows.  Freeman is special and he hurt us yesterday.  The Orioles are short in the BP and it made the difference yesterday.


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#263 BobPhelan

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 10:48 AM

It’s the same game whether it’s the AL or NL.
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Posted 18 July 2023 - 10:53 AM


It’s the same game whether it’s the AL or NL.


It certainly should be.

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:04 AM

It’s the same game whether it’s the AL or NL.

Exactly.  Last night was a tough loss, but the Dodgers are good.  They kept coming.  


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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:10 AM

If the Orioles lose in the WS to the Dodgers or Braves, I'm good with it.



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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:14 AM

If the Orioles lose in the WS to the Dodgers or Braves, I'm good with it.

Me too.  I can see it now, the Orioles lose game 7 in 12 innings and the Board will be firing Hyde.  :-P


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#268 Mike B

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:16 AM

Think I'd rather see Westburg at DH, especially with how bad Mountcastle has been against RHP. I can understand wanting to have Frazier's hot bat in the lineup and Urias for his defense at 3rd.

Mounty has swung the bat decently since he came back.

 

They put a note on the board last night, that Santander leads the Orioles with balls barreled with 30.  Mountcastle was second with 28 and he got another last night.  I was surprised.


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#269 Nigel Tufnel

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:28 AM

There'll Be Nights Like This | Defector



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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:32 AM

Cowser should play against RHP every day since Mullins is out. When Ced is back he has to earn the PT. Now, if Hicks continues to slide back hard it makes it easier to get him more ABs. That said, we are deep enough and versatile offensively that we could play Hays, Mullins, and Santanderin the OF and DH someone not named Cowser or Hicks. Mullins, Santander, Rutsch, Hays, Gunnar, and OHearn (vs righties) are must starts. The other 3 spots you fill in with your hottest or who fits the best in the matchup for the day. Put the players out there that gives you the best chance to win games.


But two notes speficially on Cowser here, the D has to get better and cherry picking the OBP is well cherry picking. Hes hitting .130 and hes slugging .130. Nor do I remember him really driving a ball. Someone is def welcome to refresh my memory as I may be missing one or two going off memory.



Again, I think hes gonna be just fine longterm. But hes gotta believe in himself and play aggressive. You can tell me its my opinion or that I dont know for sure but its pretty apparent to me hes cautious and defensive in everything hes doing right now.

I mean, why is citing his OBP cherry picking but citing his SLG isn't? It's just what he's done.

 

No, he hasn't hit yet, as I acknowledged. He has 20 batted balls, 60% on the ground, 10% FB, 30% line drives. 45% hard hit is above average, but too many on the ground. Yes, if he doesn't do better than .130 he won't last long. But you bring up these highly touted young guys because you expect their overall numbers to be good, even if their first two weeks or four or whatever suck. You send down Gunnar because you can't afford a guy hitting .192 and you miss a .994 OPS month. I don't think Cowser's necessarily on Gunnar's level, but the industry saw him as a top 20ish guy by the time he was called up and he kinda killed AAA. So you balance winning today and letting him settle in and hopefully you are better as a team in Sept with him. That's the goal, to not just get to October but to have the best team you can in the fall. If the rookie has figured it out by then, I don't care if he was 3-23 in July. At some point if he's still struggling then yeah you can't afford it anymore, but hopefully he figures it out.

 

That said, Mullins Hays and Santander should be playing almost every day when healthy. So it depends on what they want to do at DH and what they really think of Hicks, and letting Cowser get favorable spots to adjust and get comfortable is a good idea. Confidence is everything, and if he's tentative he won't perform so he needs to shake that off if it's bothering him, I def agree with that.


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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:35 AM

This legit feels like two real good teams playing. Miami didnt feel that way. Cinci was the last time it felt that way to me.

It definitely was.

 

My hope is one of our young guys grows up to be Freddie Freeman.  That guy is good.


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Posted 18 July 2023 - 01:26 PM

I mean, why is citing his OBP cherry picking but citing his SLG isn't? It's just what he's done.

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Agreed. An inflated SLG may be indicative of a mistake hitter who has 6 HR out of 8 overall hits. OBP, out of the minuscule range indicates a keen eye. 



#273 JoyinMudville

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 03:41 PM

It's baseball. Games are often decided by one pitch. I think this is a really good team that can make it to the world series, but they have to play better against NL competition.

 

I have a slightly different take. To me, Rodriquez kind of fell apart in the sixth. I am generally supportive of Hyde but I think he needed to have Rodriguez on a shorter leash in the sixth.



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Posted 18 July 2023 - 03:54 PM


It’s the same game whether it’s the AL or NL.

I told him this last night. He chose to keep debating the point

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 03:58 PM

I have a slightly different take. To me, Rodriquez kind of fell apart in the sixth. I am generally supportive of Hyde but I think he needed to have Rodriguez on a shorter leash in the sixth.

 

The O’s are woefully short on pitching depth to do it, but really Rodriguez should’ve been tasked with getting through the lineup twice, and then a long/middle arm should’ve been brought on to bridge the gap to Cano. They simply do not have the quality of relievers to put out fires the SP leave behind. The way you mitigate that is to give the RP clean innings. 



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Posted 18 July 2023 - 05:32 PM

Cowser looks like he wants to walk. His at bats are awful. His swing is anemic and he looks like he's scared to fail. Will he come out of it? Sure. But once Ced is back I am sending him down. He's not some 19 year old kid. Hes 23 years old with almost 400 AAA at bats. He shouldn't "look" this awful.

 

Compare that to Henderson when he came up. He struggled a bit too  but he swung the bat like he meant it. Cowser needs to at least actually swing and not slap at it. 



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Posted 18 July 2023 - 05:38 PM

If the Orioles lose in the WS to the Dodgers or Braves, I'm good with it.


That really was my point even though I don't really think we can't beat NL teams. We have a winning record against teams above .500. That's all that matters.




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