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Lyle Overbay to the O's?


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#1 Chris B

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:22 AM

@TradeDeadliner: It's expected that Lyle Overbay will be a #Red or #Orioles by day's end. #dbacks

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:23 AM

In order to keep this a family site...

Idiotic. That is it.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:28 AM

Don't we have enough average-hitting 1B types already?

This rumor doesn't make any sense, as such, I'll choose to believe it is inaccurate.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:34 AM

Don't we have enough average-hitting 1B types already?

This rumor doesn't make any sense, as such, I'll choose to believe it is inaccurate.

Thome didn't make much sense either.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:37 AM

Thome didn't make much sense either.


He made more sense than Lyle Overbay does.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:38 AM

He made more sense than Lyle Overbay does.

I'm just pointing out that things don't need to make a ton of sense for DD.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:41 AM

So should we assume that Thome is headed to the DL? Or is one of the CI's about to be traded?

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

Does Dan realize that there are other bases on the diamond besides first base?
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:20 PM

This is my response to Lyle Overbay as an Oriole...

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:46 PM

.367 OPB this year, higher than any Oriole regular. Just sayin'

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

So should we assume that Thome is headed to the DL? Or is one of the CI's about to be traded?


None really have any trade value. If he heats up you could see Reynolds moved next month, but I think Thome is done for the year, Davis will stay in LF which could in theory open up some PT for Overbay. They are serious about improving OBP right now.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

None really have any trade value. If he heats up you could see Reynolds moved next month, but I think Thome is done for the year, Davis will stay in LF which could in theory open up some PT for Overbay. They are serious about improving OBP right now.


What about his average w/ RISP? THAT is where we need help IMO! :evil:
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:48 PM

What about his average w/ RISP? THAT is where we need help IMO! :evil:


Agree completely, which will come with high average hitters. Unfortunately team MO is OBP focused and not AVG focused, so that's not necessarily going to change.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:53 PM

Agree completely, which will come with high average hitters. Unfortunately team MO is OBP focused and not AVG focused, so that's not necessarily going to change.

Walks with RISP will lead to more PAs with RISP. Even if the average doesn't improve, the total runs scored would.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:53 PM

Overbay has 82 AB's against righties this year. He is strictly a platoon player right now. And he was not good last year against RHP (.677 OPS, with a .314 OBP).

Just seems like a waste.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:53 PM

What about his average w/ RISP? THAT is where we need help IMO! :evil:


You don't trade for something that isn't really a skill. You can trade for good hitters and expect that they'll also be good hitters with RISP, but there's no point in trading for someone who is hitting better with RISP than he does otherwise because that is in all likelyhood, just a statistical variance that will come back to the norm at some point.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:05 PM

BTW, the Yanks are only hitting .240 with RISP. 5 points better than the O's.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:09 PM

You don't trade for something that isn't really a skill. You can trade for good hitters and expect that they'll also be good hitters with RISP, but there's no point in trading for someone who is hitting better with RISP than he does otherwise because that is in all likelyhood, just a statistical variance that will come back to the norm at some point.


Hit tool is a skill. Can't BB in every run. Whether RISP or not, more hit tool = more hits.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:12 PM

Hit tool is a skill. Can't BB in every run. Whether RISP or not, more hit tool = more hits.


I think that's what I said just with a clarification that hitting in RISP vs how one normally hits is generally not a skill.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

Unless they trade Reynolds, an Overbay/Reynolds platoon at 1B would be promising.

Overbay vs RHP - .859 OPS
Reynolds vs LHP - 866 OPS

Granted, these are both SSS. And I wouldn't give up anything of value for Overbay who was DFA'ed. But it could give us some stability at 1B for the remainder of the year.
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