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Does the QO system need to be fixed?


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#1 SportsGuy

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 10:13 AM

I know Weber has argued that no one should get compensation for losing a player.  I disagree with that and I don't think that will ever leave the game.

 

So, getting beyond the idea of changing the system by just not offering it, what needs to be changed, if anything?

 

For me, I think the following are things that should be discussed:

 

1) A team doesn't lose a pick.  You only gain, not lose.

2) If you deem you must lose a pick, make it a second rounder and later.  Losing the first round pick is killing some of these FAs.

3) If you deem you must lose the first round pick, don't lower the draft pool for the team.  Allow them to spend big on guys who fall if they so choose.

4) Get rid of QOs altogether and just offer the teams a comp pick between rounds 1 and 2 if they lose a FA.

5) Adopt an NFL like system, where the comp picks are rewarded the following draft based on the players you lost the year before.

 

What do you like there?  Dislike?

 

What else do you feel should be put on the table?



#2 Mackus

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 11:03 AM

I think an NFL style rule where it's based on total dollars coming in and out is a good idea. Would have to think a lot more about it though.

You'd have to be careful not to simply go back to the old systems which benefitted high dollar teams greatly and was changed to this one to try and do a better job protecting the lower money teams.

I think for the most part the current system works, but there definitely is a few guys getting squeezed every year and would agree that they should look at a way to do something for these guys. Maybe allow them to accept the QO later into the offseason rather than only have a week to decide? Maybe every 30 days or so the number goes down by 10% or so but it can be accepted at any point?

#3 mweb08

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 11:13 AM

I dislike the current system because I don't like how it negatively impacts some free agents so much (and the teams that want them), plus I don't think the system does a good job of benefitting the types of teams it's designed to anyway.

As far as this proposal, you fix the first problem, but probably make the second problem even worse.

There's no need for any of this imo.

#4 DJ MC

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 12:32 PM

The problem with pretty much every compensation system the league has ever put in place is that they never truly design it as a way of compensating the team that loses the player, but to punish the team that signs the player and, indirectly, the player himself. That's the mindset that has been in place with the owners since the Seitz decision and it has never left.

 

A system that works needs to find a way to avoid hurting the people that are doing what they are allowed and supposed to do, while giving something worthwhile to the team losing the player.


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Posted 07 February 2016 - 12:42 PM

Why even compensate a team for losing a player? If they want something for a player they don't anticipate retaining, then trade him. 



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 10:41 AM

Just make any player subject to 1 qualifying offer over his career would be my solution.




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