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[SportsGuy]

The best reason I can come up with to sign YG is that I think this team only has 5 starters. The other 3 Chris mentioned aren't guys you want to rely on.

Also, this could officially push Wright to the pen, which is a good thing.

[BSLChrisStoner]

That speaks to his durability, not as much as him being some innings eater.

There is a difference IMO.

He's not good enough to provide elite levels of innings....  and if you want say there's a difference between durability and being a true innings eater... that's fair enough, there probably is a slight level of distinction. 

Bottom-line with his innings though, is that the O's chances of getting 900 innings from their starters would be significantly increased with him being added. 

[SportsGuy]

He's not good enough to provide elite levels of innings.... and if you want say there's a difference between durability and being a true innings eater... that's fair enough, there probably is a slight level of distinction.

Bottom-line with his innings though, is that the O's chances of getting 900 innings from their starters would be significantly increased with him being added.

I do agree with that.

I think Worley can be as good but it's more likely that YG will provide those innings.

[dude]

I swear I'd just go to the Brewers and offer to take Garza's salary next year (they pay this year) and Braun's contract minus the deferred money.

 

Those guys will be at least as good as Gallardo/Fowler, most likely better and you can keep the 2 draft picks.

 

Likewise....we're arguing about how much money to eat on Ethier's deal.  He's owed 38M.  You'll give Fowler 35 and Gallardo 35....heck just take Etheir's 38 and Wood...again, at least as good if not better performance, costs less money, less risk...no draft picks.

 

Think of it this way....if next offseason you tried to trade Galladro and Fowler for 2 first round picks, you'd probably be laughed out of the room.

[RShack]

You'll have a hard time convincing me he'll be a #3 starter, whatever that is.

 

Well, in that case, I won't bother to try... 

[RShack]

For everyone that thinks the O's are dumb if they land Gallardo, you've got to believe the Royals are kind of kicking themselves for giving Kennedy 5/70 when right now it feels like they could have had Gallardo for 3/36, who is two years younger.  

 

Gallardo has also been reliably better than Kennedy ever since Kennedy's one very good season 5 years ago.

 

 

Kennedy is better

 

Kennedy was a little better than Gallardo in 2010.

He was a lot better than Gallardo in 2011.. he was also a lot better than his own self has ever been, before or since.

Since that one-and-only very good season, Kennedy's been worse than Gallardo every year.

[FFH]

Dunno why... Chen's a better P than Gallardo but his durability was his main weakness... 

 

That's exactly what the sports writer said in the link.

[FFH]

I swear I'd just go to the Brewers and offer to take Garza's salary next year (they pay this year) and Braun's contract minus the deferred money.

 

Those guys will be at least as good as Gallardo/Fowler, most likely better and you can keep the 2 draft picks.

 

Likewise....we're arguing about how much money to eat on Ethier's deal.  He's owed 38M.  You'll give Fowler 35 and Gallardo 35....heck just take Etheir's 38 and Wood...again, at least as good if not better performance, costs less money, less risk...no draft picks.

 

Think of it this way....if next offseason you tried to trade Galladro and Fowler for 2 first round picks, you'd probably be laughed out of the room.

 

Agree that there are other options out there, just not sure that Garza would be that guy.

He's produced at the same level as Despaigne.

[Matt_P]

Bottom-line with his innings though, is that the O's chances of getting 900 innings from their starters would be significantly increased with him being added. 

 

So, I know that Price would have required a 7 year deal and Gallardo/Fowler/O'Day/Worley require 2 to 3. But if Gallardo and Fowler go for $22M total per year and O'Day goes for another 7, then we're roughly talking the same cost for Price and those 4 players.

 

Wouldn't a rotation of Price/Tillman/Gausman/Gonzo/Jimenez be a lot more likely to give you good innings then the other set? Isn't Price/Reimold/Wright an upgrade over Gallardo/Fowler/O'Day?

 

What the hell are they doing?

[RShack]

So, I know that Price would have required a 7 year deal and Gallardo/Fowler/O'Day/Worley require 2 to 3. But if Gallardo and Fowler go for $22M total per year and O'Day goes for another 7, then we're roughly talking the same cost for Price and those 4 players.

 

Wouldn't a rotation of Price/Tillman/Gausman/Gonzo/Jimenez be a lot more likely to give you good innings then the other set? Isn't Price/Reimold/Wright an upgrade over Gallardo/Fowler/O'Day?

 

What the hell are they doing?

 

They're quite sensibly not signing a SP to a 7 year $210M contract, that's what...