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General NBA Talk 2015-16 Season (Cleveland wins Title)


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#2741 You Play to Win the Game

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:08 PM

You guys think he was still hurt? Or just fatigued?

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:10 PM

Well that's what he asked in that hypothetical

 

He asked what else he has. He clearly has other positive attributes. 



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:13 PM

You guys think he was still hurt? Or just fatigued?

 

He apparently had some sort of elbow issue, but the knee didn't seem to limit him. The defense and the refs swallowing the whistles some had a big impact. Some of it is just missing shots, though. That doesn't mean there should be some unclutch narrative, but he mostly came up small compared to what is expected of him.



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:20 PM

http://theundefeated...-lebron-enough/

 

Yep.


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:23 PM

http://theundefeated...-lebron-enough/

 

Yep.

His last line, "but it has stopped me from listening" is what I was saying about credibility last night, but he said it better.  There is none, not anymore. 

 

Good stuff. 


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:31 PM

His last line, "but it has stopped me from listening" is what I was saying about credibility last night, but he said it better.  There is none, not anymore. 

 

Good stuff. 

 

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:51 PM

UA should make a clean trade straight up with Adidas on Lillard or Wall. Totally worth it.

#2748 You Play to Win the Game

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:52 PM

UA should make a clean trade straight up with Adidas on Lillard or Wall. Totally worth it.

Do you think he will be in the top 3 for MVP next season?

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:55 PM


Do you think he will be in the top 3 for MVP next season?

Maybe, but we are selling a brand here. He's yesterday's news now. The horrible reaction to his shoes only makes it worse

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:56 PM

So, with Cleveland getting a title which city becomes the most miserable sports town?  Minneapolis hasn't won a title since the Twins in the 90s, if memory serves, and have suffered some gut wrenching losses in the process.  Arguments could also be made for Atlanta and DC.



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 05:59 PM

Do you think he will be in the top 3 for MVP next season?
Maybe, but we are selling a brand here. He's yesterday's news now. The horrible reaction to his shoes only makes it worse
Hmm.... Maybe a little something to this... If it's a trend, but great players have recovered from worse. I doubt a bunch of kids wearing his shoes would ditch him that quick. He's a very likable guy and super fun to watch too.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 07:08 PM

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

I haven't. 

 

Cheers. 


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 07:57 PM

Sure, but why would we compare two players while taking away the best trait away from one of them, something he's better at than anyone ever?


The context of the conversation was LBJ vs Curry as the best player. Jones was saying, if LeBron isn't shooting well, he is getting to the line...taking it to the hoop..better defense, better rebounding.

Steph had 2 assists yesterday. He's not a bad rebounder for his size and position but still, he's not some great rebounder and he's not a good defender.

In this series, his shot wasn't there...he wasn't able to attack and get to the line either.

A guy like Westbrook can get to the hoop when he wants, which was always my argument for him.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 07:58 PM

You guys think he was still hurt? Or just fatigued?


The combo of the refs and the game plan vs him, especially when he was playing defense, were the big strikes against him.

That caused his shot to be an issue.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 08:17 PM

Sure, but why would we compare two players while taking away the best trait away from one of them, something he's better at than anyone ever?



The context of the conversation was LBJ vs Curry as the best player. Jones was saying, if LeBron isn't shooting well, he is getting to the line...taking it to the hoop..better defense, better rebounding.


Steph had 2 assists yesterday. He's not a bad rebounder for his size and position but still, he's not some great rebounder and he's not a good defender.


In this series, his shot wasn't there...he wasn't able to attack and get to the line either.


A guy like Westbrook can get to the hoop when he wants, which was always my argument for him.


Curry shot 40% from 3 and hit 32 3's. That's not good for him, but it's not like his shot was non existent.

Curry is better than Westbrook. We don't need to revisit that.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 08:33 PM

Curry shot 40% from 3 and hit 32 3's. That's not good for him, but it's not like his shot was non existent.

Curry is better than Westbrook. We don't need to revisit that.

 

Curry was better this year than Westbrook. 

 

His 3% and 2% were both up. How often is that sustainable? When it comes in a players 26 - 27 year seasons and does it stay? 

 

I believe he can sustain 44-45% from 3. I think the question as he ages is, can he continue to hold up the 56% on 2 pt shots and keep the volume that he had this year. If 56% from 2 looks more like 50-51% he won't look so god like. 

 

I certainly can't predict if it'll sustain, but it certainly would take a pretty impressive run to sustain it, IMO. 



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 08:57 PM

Curry has been better the past two years, pretty clearly so.

Westbrook is approximately the same age and I'd be a lot more worried about how his game ages, a game predicated on elite athleticism.

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 09:06 PM

Apparently Skip Bayless thinks

 

That'd be a first.


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 09:35 PM

Think people will be asking what is wrong with James when he coasts / paces himself through the first 75% of next season again?



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 10:04 PM

Think people will be asking what is wrong with James when he coasts / paces himself through the first 75% of next season again?

I can think of someone


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