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Balt Sun: Mike Elias has to worry about the Orioles’ long-term future. This season is testing that approach.


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#1 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 29 July 2023 - 09:21 AM

Balt Sun: Mike Elias has to worry about the Orioles’ long-term future. This season is testing that approach.



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Posted 29 July 2023 - 11:37 AM

No, it's not.


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Posted 29 July 2023 - 04:15 PM

BS.

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Posted 31 July 2023 - 02:04 PM

In other words we're winning without bringing in big ticket items, let's keep it that way.
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Posted 31 July 2023 - 03:14 PM

In other words we're winning without bringing in big ticket items, let's keep it that way.

They haven't won anything yet. Anything that matters anyway. 

 

We're going to find out in about 2-3 months if they should have done more.


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Posted 31 July 2023 - 03:17 PM

The problem with this line of thinking is that the O's pitching staff, outside the upside of Grayson Rodriguez, and the hope of a sustained few years of elite level of play out of Bautista, really doesn't resemble a group of arms that can take a team deep into October. 


Elias has to reconcile that reality with trying to retain his core of young talent. 

 

In other words, you know, he's got to actually manage the direction of this franchise. 



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Posted 31 July 2023 - 03:20 PM

They haven't put much emphasis on pitching in the minor leagues, aside from trading for Povich, Johnson, and McDermott. Rodriguez was inherited and Hall is barely a prospect at this point.

Definitely need to find pitching somewhere.

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Posted 31 July 2023 - 03:37 PM

They haven't put much emphasis on pitching in the minor leagues, aside from trading for Povich, Johnson, and McDermott. Rodriguez was inherited and Hall is barely a prospect at this point.
Definitely need to find pitching somewhere.


That was always my belief...draft and develop hitters and go get reliable starting pitchers with a track record via free agency or trades. This organization has been abysmal developing pitchers.

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Posted 31 July 2023 - 04:27 PM

That was always my belief...draft and develop hitters and go get reliable starting pitchers with a track record via free agency or trades. This organization has been abysmal developing pitchers.


Which I'm totally fine with, but at some point you need to try harder than Jordan Lyles/ Kyle Gibson.
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Posted 31 July 2023 - 04:48 PM

Which I'm totally fine with, but at some point you need to try harder than Jordan Lyles/ Kyle Gibson.


Agreed.

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Posted 01 August 2023 - 06:05 PM

Looks like it wasn't much of a test.
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Posted 02 August 2023 - 07:08 AM

It's pretty clear when Elias speaks that winning this early wasn't the plan and he has obviously struggled with going in a different direction. He's a great talent builder but until he actually shows that he can pull off deals of any consequence he'll be just that. That's how great GM's earn their title and he's not there yet.

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Posted 02 August 2023 - 07:10 AM

In other words we're winning without bringing in big ticket items, let's keep it that way.

As I said. 


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