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[Oriole85]

Ehh, it's not that big of a deal either way, IMO... both scenarios include a good amount of luck in order to backfire. Bottom line is the most important aspect to either scenario is player execution, so this isn't something I put much stock into either way at the end of the day.

 

BTW, while I was in the camp that was FOR them fouling yesterday, BNick was absolutely right, and not with hindsight, that with THIS group of players, it was the wrong move. That turned out to be true.

You play to the situation. But I think in general, fouling up 3 is much better because you need three different things to break in that situation as opposed to only one.

 

If they can't execute like they didn't on Sunday, that speaks more to MD, but UVA still needed the right bounce there. I'd do the same thing again knowing what I know. They had an 11% of tying the game.

[You Play to Win the Game]

You play to the situation. But I think in general, fouling up 3 is much better because you need three different things to break in that situation as opposed to only one.

 

If they can't execute like they didn't on Sunday, that speaks more to MD, but UVA still needed the right bounce there. I'd do the same thing again knowing what I know. They had an 11% of tying the game.

 

Yeah, to clarify - I'd do the same thing over again - I just think that, though he was being negative, he was also right in this particular instance. Hell, I could just feel it, I knew it was going to happen as soon as he made the 1st free throw.

[Oriole85]

Yeah, to clarify - I'd do the same thing over again - I just think that, though he was being negative, he was also right in this particular instance. Hell, I could just feel it, I knew it was going to happen as soon as he made the 1st free throw.

And to your credit, it sure as hell can backfire. I'm just doing the one that I think will give me a better chance to win.

 

Bnickle can get credit since he was right since he'd be criticized if things turned out differently. And it wouldn't have been the worst decision to just play good defense but you still have to execute defensively there (not saying they would or wouldn't).

 

We're all nervous in end of the game situations -- that goes with both teams IMO. I know how emotional fans get here.

[Mackus]

Yeah, to clarify - I'd do the same thing over again - I just think that, though he was being negative, he was also right in this particular instance. Hell, I could just feel it, I knew it was going to happen as soon as he made the 1st free throw.

 

What did you feel when UVA was inbounding the ball under their own basket with 5 seconds left and the Terps up by 1?

[You Play to Win the Game]

What did you feel when UVA was inbounding the ball under their own basket with 5 seconds left and the Terps up by 1?

 

I thought we were doomed! C'mon man, how can you not feel that way with this team.

 

I'm just glad we won.

[Oriole85]

The whole "I had a FEELING," "I KNEW this was going to happen," "There was NO WAY we were going to win this game." almost always gets mentioned AFTER the fact instead of the instant you felt it.

[You Play to Win the Game]

The whole "I had a FEELING," "I KNEW this was going to happen," "There was NO WAY we were going to win this game." almost always gets mentioned AFTER the fact instead of the instant you felt it.

 

Except for this team, lol. I mean, really, they've been so bad all year in these situations. Hell, you can't even use the term snake bitten, because it's not a bad luck thing either, it's just such poor, awful execution down the stretch of tight games. That more than anything is why this team isn't dancing.

[Oriole85]

Except for this team, lol. I mean, really, they've been so bad all year in these situations. Hell, you can't even use the term snake bitten, because it's not a bad luck thing either, it's just such poor, awful execution down the stretch of tight games. That more than anything is why this team isn't dancing.

I see it after something bad happens in O's/Ravens games and on the CU message board I frequent as well in addition to social media for fans of other teams. And everyone thinking the announcers hate their team and the refs sabotaging their teams efforts.

 

The team isn't dancing if were honest because they don't deserve to be. Losing to Boston U and Oregon State at home is unacceptable. They just beat their first Tourney team (Providence is on the bubble/FSU is a little off of it). They had ONE ACC road win and that was against VT. The talent is there and they under-performed.

[You Play to Win the Game]

I see it after something bad happens in O's/Ravens games and on the CU message board I frequent as well in addition to social media for fans of other teams. And everyone thinking the announcers hate their team and the refs sabotaging their teams efforts.

 

The team isn't dancing if were honest because they don't deserve to be. Losing to Boston U and Oregon State at home is unacceptable. They just beat their first Tourney team (Providence is on the bubble/FSU is a little off of it). They had ONE ACC road win and that was against VT. The talent is there and they under-performed.

 

Yeah, but if this team closed out games at an even average level, they'd have a much better resume.

 

And yes, it's in a fanatic's nature to freak out during the last minute of a tight contest. It happens all the time. My point is that with the Terps, it's unfortunately for very good reason.

[Oriole85]

Yeah, but if this team closed out games at an even average level, they'd have a much better resume.

 

And yes, it's in a fanatic's nature to freak out during the last minute of a tight contest. It happens all the time. My point is that with the Terps, it's unfortunately for very good reason.

They were the antithesis of the 2012 O's, how's that?

 

If they won 50% of those coin flip games, they'd be closer to the bubble sure -- how much closer I'm not sure (remember yesterday was a coin flip game). I get that were going to play the "if game," you know how I feel about that.

[bnickle]

My thought at the moment would have been exactly the same as Turgeons. Do something different because nothing has worked out well so far this year.

I agree with Mackus that the situation dictates what I do there. Mostly, how many ticks are actually on the clock and who it is that actually gets the ball.

The overwhelming sentiment I felt was that either way I felt UVA would find a way to tie or win there. With this team, it just feels like any button you push is not going to end up going well.

[Domenic]

Ehh, it's not that big of a deal either way, IMO... both scenarios include a good amount of luck in order to backfire. Bottom line is the most important aspect to either scenario is player execution, so this isn't something I put much stock into either way at the end of the day.

 

BTW, while I was in the camp that was FOR them fouling yesterday, BNick was absolutely right, and not with hindsight, that with THIS group of players, it was the wrong move. That turned out to be true.

Like you said, both scenarios involve an insane amount of luck - that most of Maryland's opponents seem to have gotten this year. However I suspect that teams probably have picked up on the fact that Turgeon never does that, and perhaps that influences who gets the ball in that situation also. Not necessarily yesterday, but in general moving forward. If your scouting report says that the opposing coach doesn't like to foul in that situation and you have 1 guard that's a good dribbler but perhaps a lousy FT shooter, you might give him the ball (thinking Maryland won't foul).