Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 October 2016 - 12:22 PM
What's more unwatchable, good QBs who are protected from big hits by the rules or good QBs who can get lit up often by defenders about 3/4 of the time and then terrible backup QBs getting lit up by defenders the remainder?
I don't think that's a fair characterization of what the choices are...
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 October 2016 - 12:24 PM
Well, yeah. When Unitas played it was the ultimate tough guy sport. You could clothsline people, head slap, receivers got mugged and it was ok.
Comparatively yeah, even Joe Montana's era was babied compared to Unitas. But today its babied compared to Montana's era. The Montana era was still tougher than this one. You can look at a lot old tapes of Elway, Marino, guys in the 80s who would get pummeled without the thought of a flag. Now it's like the QB has a bubble around them.
Can you imagine what numbers Unitas would have put up with today's rules and today's schedule?
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
HOF
Posted 18 October 2016 - 06:46 PM
I don't think there's anything new about most of the stuff you guys just mentioned... the rules have been crazy complicated for decades now... the cap has been in place almost forever... the commercials have been crammed down our throats nearly forever... the cap has caused many teams to have bi-modal payroll for a long time... the only new things seem to be the Ravens have lost multiple games in a row and everybody knows way more about concussion damage now...
If the Ravens were putting everybody away, would the other stuff bother you much?
Owner
Posted 18 October 2016 - 07:53 PM
The Ringer: Is There Too Much Football?
https://theringer.co...d53a#.ff6tnfhgv
Fair-weather ex-diehard
Posted 18 October 2016 - 09:55 PM
The Ringer: Is There Too Much Football?
https://theringer.co...d53a#.ff6tnfhgv
"The only change is that baseball has turned Paige from a second-class citizen to a second-class immortal." - Satchel Paige
HOF
Posted 19 October 2016 - 06:13 AM
The Ringer: Is There Too Much Football?
https://theringer.co...d53a#.ff6tnfhgv
This is a very large part of what soured me on it. Used to be a big NFL guy, now I barely watch unless I'm home and there's literally nothing else to do. Which is pretty much never when you have kids.
I think a lot of the reasons others have mentioned are valid. But over-saturation was the big one for me. I've mentioned on here before about how tired I would get hearing about the draft, OTAs, etc. I don't want to hear about football when it's not football season. Which I realize made me a minority for a while, but maybe the tide is changing in on that.
Also got a little tired of how the NFL was glorified during the baseball steroid scandal, as if we all don't know there's a ton of NFL guys taking stuff too. But that's a whole other issue.
I agreed with Cuban a few years back when he said pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. NFL has been a hog for a while now. Eventually the league will decline. Maybe that's starting to happen now.
HOF
Posted 19 October 2016 - 06:40 AM
HOF
Posted 19 October 2016 - 07:36 AM
I just hate the NFL as a brand. Hate. Not dislike, Hate. And that has definitely impacted my viewing overall. I won't miss a snap of a Ravens game, but I don't do fantasy anymore, and I rarely watch primetime games except for SNF. MNF and TNF are complete trash now days. And there's just constant drama. It never ends.
Banned
Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:11 AM
I still have a few fantasy football leagues but I dont have much interest in watching games outside of Ravens games. Ill just log in and check on the scoring. I know I havent watched any other game all the way through this year. Or for that matter, even a half of any another game. A lot of it is the rules. It's not even necessarily the safety stuff, its the complete inconsistency of the officiating. And its not the officials fault. It's tough when the sport is one where you truly could throw a flag on nearly every play. When do you decide to throw a flag and not to throw a flag. Mike Wallace pretty much drew a phantom PI in our game but Sherman holds Julios arm for a good 4 seconds and nothing is called. That happens every week and in a sport with such parity it makes too much of a difference. Its just not a pure sport. Ive come to appreciate sports that get rid of a lot of subjectivity in officiating. Tennis, Golf, Baseball is still the best of the 4 ML sports. You got the strikezone which as Ive argued should go to computers, but it's pretty pure.
la cerveza está muy fría
Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:21 AM
You guys sound like you are at the place I was a year or so ago. I've gravitated back, mostly because it helps me feel a connection with being in the US. But as soon as the Ravens games are over, I find something else to do.
@fuzydunlop
HOF
Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:21 AM
Totally agree. The subjectivity is maddening.
HOF
Posted 19 October 2016 - 11:45 AM
If my Facebook feed is any indication, I think the National Anthem issue has had a non-negligible effect as well. How big of an effect I don't know, but it definitely turned some people off pretty significantly.
OTV
Posted 19 October 2016 - 04:51 PM
Junk mail and parcels but still a good analogy.Fantasy football is keeping the NFL alive just like junk mail is keeping US Mail alive.
I Miss McNulty
Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:15 PM
Junk mail and parcels but still a good analogy.
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
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MVP
Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:01 PM
Poll: Anger at Colin Kaepernick Is Driving Down NFL Ratings
According to a Yahoo/YouGov poll, 29 percent of NFL fans are watching less football than in years past. Of that group, 40 percent blame the national anthem protests started in the preseason by Colin Kaepernick. That was an especially popular reason for those 55 and over. Fifty-three percent of that group cited protests as their main reason for avoiding the NFL. Only 13 percent of 18-to-34-year-olds who cut back on the NFL have done so because of lowered knees and raised fists.
http://nymag.com/dai...fl-ratings.html
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MVP
Posted 23 October 2016 - 11:57 AM
John Keegan, a renowned British military historian, has called World War II the greatest single event in the history of mankind. - Tom Brokaw, NBC special correspondent and author of "The Greatest Generation"
HOF
Posted 24 October 2016 - 08:21 AM
I was at a bar yesterday for the game, thankfully the sound was on the Redskins game so I didn't have to also HEAR that debacle yesterday. But anyway, all the games were on and maybe 2 of them were actually in game at a time. All the others were on commercials. At several different times every. single. game. was on a commercial. That's pathetic. You've got people spending $250-300 for the NFL Ticket and it's pretty much a waste. Just buy the RZ if you can. That's all anyone every watches anyway.
There's no flow to these games. It's like watching a 90 movie dragged out for 2.5 hours on FX or something. It's almost gotten to the point where I am going to start watching games a half hour after it begins and catch up the rest of the way so I can FF through the commercials.
Moderator
Posted 24 October 2016 - 08:26 AM
A tie last night certainly doesn't help this discussion.
HOF
Posted 24 October 2016 - 08:29 AM
It's almost gotten to the point where I am going to start watching games a half hour after it begins and catch up the rest of the way so I can FF through the commercials.
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