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#21 Oriole85

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:16 PM

@MelAntonen sixteen voters didn't vote for #GregMaddux in the Hall of Fame.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:16 PM

Dan Connolly ‏@danconnollysun 16s

There were 571 ballots cast this year, up two from last year. Yet most returnees' totals slippe



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:17 PM

Where was Morris?

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:17 PM

Where was Morris?

61%


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

http://www.masnsport...off-ballot.html

 

Greg Maddux 555 (97.2%) 1
Tom Glavine 525 (91.9) 1
Frank Thomas 478 (83.7) 1
Craig Biggio 427 (74.8) 2
Mike Piazza 355 (62.2) 2
Jack Morris 351 (61.5) 15
Jeff Bagwell 310 (54.3) 4
Tim Raines 263 (46.1) 7
Roger Clemens 202 (35.4) 2
Barry Bonds 198 (34.7) 2
Lee Smith 171 (29.9) 12
Curt Schilling 167 (29.2) 2
Edgar Martinez 144 (25.2) 5
Alan Trammell 119 (20.8) 13
Mike Mussina 116 (20.3) 1

Jeff Kent 87 (15.2) 1
Fred McGriff 67 (11.7) 8
Mark McGwire 63 (11.0) 8
Larry Walker 58 (10.2) 4
Don Mattingly 47 (8.2) 14
Sammy Sosa 41 (7.2) 2
Rafael Palmeiro 25 (4.4) 4
Moises Alou 6 (1.1) 1
Hideo Nomo 6 (1.1) 1
Luis Gonzalez 5 (0.9) 1
Eric Gagne 2 (0.4) 1
J.T. Snow 2 (0.4) 1
Armando Benitez 1 (0.2) 1
Jacque Jones 1 (0.2) 1
Kenny Rogers 1 (0.2) 1
Sean Casey 0 (0) 1
Ray Durham 0 (0) 1
Todd Jones 0 (0) 1
Paul LoDuca 0 (0) 1
Richie Sexson 0 (0) 1
Mike Timlin 0 (0) 1


Really disgusted with those in bold.  Whether its Morris getting way too many votes or everyone else not getting enough, its sad.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:24 PM

Congrats to Maddox and Glavine and Thomas. All three deserve to get in.

 

I remember when Blyleven finished with 74-something percent of the vote. That's just too close. Probably should round up :P

 

Morris now becomes the second player to receive 60-plus percent of the vote and not be elected, after Gil Hodges--who has a very similar argument to the Morris one that the writers have tried to push.

 

BBWAA website crashed. That just about says it all about that organization right there.

 

The next year is going to be fun.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:26 PM

http://www.masnsport...off-ballot.html

 

Greg Maddux 555 (97.2%) 1
Tom Glavine 525 (91.9) 1
Frank Thomas 478 (83.7) 1
Craig Biggio 427 (74.8) 2
Mike Piazza 355 (62.2) 2
Jack Morris 351 (61.5) 15
Jeff Bagwell 310 (54.3) 4
Tim Raines 263 (46.1) 7
Roger Clemens 202 (35.4) 2
Barry Bonds 198 (34.7) 2
Lee Smith 171 (29.9) 12
Curt Schilling 167 (29.2) 2
Edgar Martinez 144 (25.2) 5
Alan Trammell 119 (20.8) 13
Mike Mussina 116 (20.3) 1

Jeff Kent 87 (15.2) 1
Fred McGriff 67 (11.7) 8
Mark McGwire 63 (11.0) 8
Larry Walker 58 (10.2) 4
Don Mattingly 47 (8.2) 14
Sammy Sosa 41 (7.2) 2
Rafael Palmeiro 25 (4.4) 4
Moises Alou 6 (1.1) 1
Hideo Nomo 6 (1.1) 1
Luis Gonzalez 5 (0.9) 1
Eric Gagne 2 (0.4) 1
J.T. Snow 2 (0.4) 1
Armando Benitez 1 (0.2) 1
Jacque Jones 1 (0.2) 1
Kenny Rogers 1 (0.2) 1
Sean Casey 0 (0) 1
Ray Durham 0 (0) 1
Todd Jones 0 (0) 1
Paul LoDuca 0 (0) 1
Richie Sexson 0 (0) 1
Mike Timlin 0 (0) 1


Really disgusted with those in bold.  Whether its Morris getting way too many votes or everyone else not getting enough, its sad.

Not surprised Moose missed, surprised he only got 20%. Also would've thought Schilling would get more.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:28 PM

http://deadspin.com/...llot-1496558341 It was Dan Le Batard who sold his vote to Deadspin. All proceeds went to charity and he states his reasons in the article.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:29 PM

@JacqueJones11 Apprecaite my tweeples for helping me get that 1 HOF vote. Seriously that is awesome.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:39 PM

I would feel bad about not voting for Biggio (as I did not in my article) if I actually had a vote. I thought he would get in.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

Three voters have already tweeted Keith Law saying they only didn't vote for Biggio because they didn't have the space.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:55 PM

I mean I could rant and rave, but what's the point?  It's a good old boy system controlled by the good old boys.

 

It's like the Tax Code and other laws.  They won't re-write it because the only people that can are the attorneys that make money to understand it.


There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:55 PM

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

This year, 50% of BBWAA voters used all 10 ballot spots, up from 22% last year. Look for BBWAA to recommend larger ballot.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:56 PM

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

This year, 50% of BBWAA voters used all 10 ballot spots, up from 22% last year. Look for BBWAA to recommend larger ballot.

Thats sad...How could you not use up the votes on this class?



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:02 PM

Two blank ballots were submitted.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:05 PM

Bagwell went down from last year.  I gotta think that's just because of the crowded ballot, as he went up from 48.2 to 56.0 to 59.6.  I think he eventually gets in, but think the similarly crowded class in 2015 will keep him out for at least another year.

 

Piazza starting at 57.8% also likely will get in as people move past the steroid nonsense, at least for the guys who never had any real suspicions.  Doubt it'll be next year, though.

 

Shame that Raines will likely never get in.  He's a guy that definitely should be there.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:05 PM

They need to publicize the votes -- that would be huge.


There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:09 PM

They need to publicize the votes -- that would be huge.

 

BBWAA will eventually put it up like they did last year: http://bbwaa.com/13-hof-ballots/

 

Voters aren't forced to come forward, but a lot will.



#39 Oriole85

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:12 PM

I just like to see every voter defend their ballot. Unless the case is egregious, I'm not going to call for the revocation of their credentials as you can find faults with many of the voters. I just would like more transparency.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:13 PM

BBWAA will eventually put it up like they did last year: http://bbwaa.com/13-hof-ballots/

 

Voters aren't forced to come forward, but a lot will.

According to Baseball Think Factory, Nearly 37% of ballots were made public in some form before the voting was announced: http://www.baseballt...ollecting_gizmo


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