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#1 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:15 PM

Maryland's modest 3 game winning streak came to an end, as Pittsburgh beat the Terps 79-59. With the loss, MD falls to 10-6 overall, 2-1 in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

The Terrapins will next travel to Florida State for a game vs. the Seminoles Sunday night.

What did we see?

 

1) The first ACC game played at Pittsburgh saw a competitive 1st half, with the Panthers leading 36-30.  In the first 20 minutes, MD was 12 of 28 (43%) from the floor. While that was positive, the Panthers were even better; making 13 of their first 26 (50%) attempts.

 

1a) The 2nd half was all Panthers, as Pittsburgh controlled the action. Pittsburgh shot 53% for the game, with MD finishing at 36%. MD had 8 assists on their 20 made baskets, while Pitt had 18 on their 29 baskets.

 

2) Maryland had a 19-13 rebounding edge in the 1st half. The teams finished even on the boards, with both teams having 36.

 

3) One of the reasons for the Panthers 1st half lead, was that they were 7 of 11 from the FT line, while MD had managed to get just 2 attempts from the charity stripe. The final score could have looked even worse had Pitt shot better from the line. The Panthers were 15 of 25 at the foul line, while MD was 11 of 15.

 

4) A lot of Terrapins played reasonably well in the 1st half. One that did not was Jake Layman. Layman was 0 from 4 from the floor, and looked to be more of a liability vs. an asset. With 13 minutes in the 2nd half, he had his first basket - scoring after a huge offensive board, with a follow. Getting to the line a 2nd time, he hit 1 of 2 to make it 61-49. I liked what we saw a few attempts from Layman to score inside in the 2nd half, but it was another lost game in as a whole for the Sophomore. Layman finished with 3 points, going 1 for 7 from the floor, and 1 of 3 from the FT line. He had 4 boards, and 2 blocks. We've stated it several times this year, but MD's offense just looks inept when he is not scoring.

 

5) Maryland's leading scorer in the 1st half was Smotrycz, who hit all three of his 3 point attempts. In the 2nd half, he missed 5 straight FG attempts before scoring at the line. That was followed by another miss from 3. Finally again hitting from outside, Smotrycz made it a 10 point game with 5 minutes left. All told, Smotrycz was 4 of 13 from the floor (1 of 9 in the 2nd half), finishing with 14 points, and 4 boards. 11 of his 13 attempts were from 3.

 

6) The Terrapins had 7 turnovers in the first 20 minutes. For the game, the Terps finished with 12 turnovers. Wells was the worst offender, as he had 4.

 

7) Seth Allen had 7 points in the first 20 minutes, going 2 of 5 from the floor. One of his baskets was a long 3. He was consistently getting good penetration, but several times missed shots in the lane. Allen started the 2nd half for MD, and his scoring increased. Wells would find him for an open 3, to pull MD within 5 (38-33). Down 11 with 14 minutes left, Allen hit a huge 3. Another long 3 from Allen beat the shot clock, and made it 63-52 Pitt. Allen finished with 18 points, going 5 for 11 from the floor, including 4 of 7 from 3. He was also 4 of 4 from the FT line.

 

8) Graham had some defense off the bench. In the first half he added 4 boards, with 2 points. The basket coming on a hook shot just outside the lane. Down 52-44, Graham dribbled a captured rebound out of bounds. His second half was quieter, as he added just 1 rebound to his 1st half totals.

 

9) Cleare started MD's scoring, getting good position inside, and immediately finding the basket. That was his lone attempt of the 1st half.  A good put-back from Cleare, made it a 5 point game (40-35 Pitt) early in the 2nd half. He finished with 4 points, and 4 boards.

 

10) After back-to-back very positive games from Faust, he was not able to sustain that run tonight. At the 17 minute mark of the 2nd half, he did finish a nice alley-oop from Allen. Getting out on a break, Faust finished to pull MD within 11 (59-48) with 11:30 left. For the game, Faust had 7 points and 4 boards. He was 2 of 7 from the field, 0 of 3 from 3.

 

11) Wells had 4 points on 3 shots in the 1st half. Both baskets coming on jumpers in the lane. He finished with 5 points, 3 boards, 2 assists, 1 steal, and those 4 aforementioned turnovers. He took just 6 shots. ESPN relayed Coach Turgeon's comments about Wells playing not being afraid of playing on the road. Wells might not be afraid, but that was a very passive performance. This team needs Wells to positively impact pretty much every game.

 

12) Peters air-balled a 3 in the 1st half, and had to deal with that chant the rest of the night. He did a fair job of getting penetration against the Panthers zone. He finished with 4 points, 2 assists, 1 steal, and 1 turnover. It wasn't a particularly strong performance, but he didn't look overwhelmed by his surroundings either.

 

13) In the middle of the 2nd half, Coach Turgeon went to a zone defense with Dodd on the court.

 

14) Down 20 with less than a minute left, Coach Turgeon called timeout and laid into his team. Presumably, he was not pleased with the defensive effort.

 

15) After 6 points, and 11 boards vs. Georgia Tech, Mitchell had just 2 points, and 3 boards vs. Pittsburgh tonight.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:35 PM

The wings lost the game for us tonight.  They are the strength of the team, but Faust, Wells, and especially Layman were all terrible. 

 

Pitt hit everything tonight.  I thought the Terps defense was solid in the first half and early part of the second half before falling apart as the Terps gave up late.  Offense was able to generate a lot of good looks in the first half, but that dried up in the second as well.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:50 AM

I don't even have that much to say about this loss. The same old stuff hurt the Terps in this game (sloppy play, turnovers, lack of a game plan vs. the zone, etc.). The defense got really lazy down the stretch as well. They're relying on the 3-pointer more and more as the season goes on, and that's troubling.

 

They have got to find a center who can succeed, because of the 4 they've tried, none have played well consistently. Shaq Cleare continues to start despite horrible shot selection and continuous fouling. Charles Mitchell doesn't use his size well at all offensively. Jonathan Graham is extremely streaky and doesn't have the size to match up with ACC centers. Damonte Dodd is basically a freshman version of Shaq Cleare with more upside (bad shot selection, lots of fouls). And none of them can make free throws.

 

At the beginning of the year, I would have said that this is a game the Terps should have won by a small margin. But I never really expected them to win. I don't expect them to win at FSU either. They're not playing well, and not enough improvement has been made to show me that they can compete with anyone more than the very bottom of the ACC. They beat a bad BC team and a GT team without their best player. Great, that's probably their level of competition right now. Not that they can't improve, but I haven't seen any reason why they will this season. 

 

I didn't make much of a prediction before, but here's mine for ACC play: I think the Terps win 7 ACC games. Looking down the schedule, I can't see them beating the good teams at home or the mediocre teams on the road. I think their next ACC win comes at home against Miami. I see them losing @FSU, Notre Dame, @NC State, and Pittsburgh.

 

Again, I hope I'm wrong. But unless there are drastic improvements, I don't like what I see from this team.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:39 AM

Well, like Mackus said, even if they had managed to win this one it really would have just meant that they had a chance to work themselves back to the bubble.

 

It is good to see Seth Allen putting up decent numbers since his return.  I haven't been able to watch any of the games he's played in though.  How does he look since his return, particularly from a standpoint of taking care of the basketball and making smart decisions?

 

It seems like Peters is making nice strides as well.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:41 AM

Allen and Peters have both played pretty well recently.

 

Allen's not 100% back, but I do think his decision making has been solid.  He took a couple of bad threes tonight (though one of them went in), but overall he's done a nice job.  I don't think that many of the mistakes that he's made have been mental, just rust. 

 

Peters seemed a bit sloppy tonight.  Not mentally, but just was having trouble corralling the ball sometimes. 

 

Those two should be playing together a lot, and I like that we've started to see that.  They are the two best players on the team, IMO.  Neither has the ability to control a game physically the way Dez can, and Peters isn't the scoring threat that Layman or Faust can be at times, but they are the most consistent guys on the team, and the offense as a whole works far better when at least one of them is one the court.

 

Peters needs to work really hard on his jumpshot over the offseason.  He hasn't taken many shots this year for a reason.  He doesn't need to develop into a major threat out there, but he's gotta have at least a respectable outside game or else defenders will be able to slack way off and stop him from driving, which is the entire basis of his offensive game at this point.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:46 AM

I thought the first half the team looked real solid up until the final couple minutes when things started getting sloppy.  Unfortunately, it was the slopfest that carried over into the second half.

 

I think the ability to play well, and be at least a relevant, middle-of-the-pack team in the ACC is there.  We saw it against GT and for most of the first half against Pitt.  The trick is getting that level of play consistently.  It's very hard to play your best most of the time.  But that's what this team will need to do in order to have a real chance.

 

If they can't, we aren't finishing over .500, and in that case there won't be any real debate over which is the worst squad Maryland has run out there in the past 20 years.  Sitting at 10-6 (2-1) right now with 15 games to go.  6-9 over the remainder of the regular season would have us at 16-15 (8-10) heading into the ACC tournament.  If we can win our first game on play-in day, that probably lands them a spot in the NIT at 17-16.  How pathetic is it that we are now just hoping to have a shot at the NIT?  God this program is in awful shape right now.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:52 AM

Why does it seem like every guard we recruit has to learn to shoot while in College Park? Can't we bring in just one guy who can actually shoot from day one? What happened to the Mike Jones, Chris McCray's, Drew Nicholas's of the world?

 

Why couldn't Turgeon and Stoglin co-exist?



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

Has anyone seen quotes from Turgeon after the game?  I can't find them anywhere.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:59 AM

Trimble, Nickens and Wiley are shooters. We have that covered next class. And I say that remembering hearing about how someone like Faust could shoot and he being a disappointment. These 3 incoming freshman are very much known for their shooting ability. There is always a chance that doesn't translate, especially early, in college but these guys have better reputations in that regard than anyone we've had in a long while.

 

 

IM encouraged going forward except for the fact that we have no post presence. Hopefully, Reed will at least do that defensively. I have no hope for CLeare. Mitchell is what he is now. Dodd, I still don't have much of a read on yet.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:59 AM

Allen's not 100% back, but I do think his decision making has been solid.  He took a couple of bad threes tonight (though one of them went in), but overall he's done a nice job.  I don't think that many of the mistakes that he's made have been mental, just rust. 

 

Peters seemed a bit sloppy tonight.  Not mentally, but just was having trouble corralling the ball sometimes. 

 

Those two should be playing together a lot, and I like that we've started to see that. 

 

Thanks for the report.  I agree that I like Allen and Peters on the floor at the same time. 

 

 

Why does it seem like every guard we recruit has to learn to shoot while in College Park? Can't we bring in just one guy who can actually shoot from day one? What happened to the Mike Jones, Chris McCray's, Drew Nicholas's of the world?

 

Why couldn't Turgeon and Stoglin co-exist?

 

Dion Wiley in next year's class is supposed to be a sharpshooter, and Trimble is supposed to be able to shoot as well.

 

Of course, I heard the same thing about Nick Faust, so I've learned to take these kinds of things with a grain of salt.

 

I still like Allen's shot, and he's gotten better results with it so far this year.  I said last year that his shot just looked too good to be at 31% from 3, and so far this year he's at 52%, which he obviously won't sustain but it's a good early sign at least.
 



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:02 AM

Trimble and Wiley are shooters.

 

 

We've heard that before.

 

Nick Faust's scout profile coming out of HS highlights his strengths as "3-point range, big-time scorer, catch and shoot."



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:04 AM

We'll have the guard and wing play starting next year to be a tourney team. Im convinced of that. It's gonna be about the post guys.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:04 AM

I think we are one good big man and a legit go-to guy who can score 18 ppg away from being the team we need to be.  And hell, that guy could even be the same person.

 

I don't think Reed is really a guy that will come in and contribute right away on the inside, so I think we'll continue to have these interior problems unless the guys already here really make big strides.  I think we'll be even better in the 1-3 spots next year than this year, but the interior play will be our undoing.  A JuCo or transfer that can play right away at the 4 or 5 would be a huge addition if we've still got any room to add.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:06 AM

At this point I've got little to no confidence in Cleare and even Mitchell's only skill seems to be offensive rebounding. I hope Dodd can develop or Reed can come in and be an Ibekwe style defender.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:06 AM

We've heard that before.

 

Nick Faust's scout profile coming out of HS highlights his strengths as "3-point range, big-time scorer, catch and shoot."

Wiley in particular is noted for his shooting. Like I've seen thinks reported /linked where he's been named best shooter in the whole class, or at least one of them.

 

 

Again, you never know, but I would say he has the best reputation as a shooter coming to MD since Mike Jones.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:11 AM

The Terps played a pretty solid half of basketball going into the break only down 6. The second half was a mix of the issues that the team has limited this team during the season.

 

Seth Allen brings an energy and an ability to knock down the long ball that this offense sorely needed. His decision making has improved exponentially since last season. Once he's 100% I'd expect him to play a LOT Of minutes.

 

Wells struggled and overpenetrated most times. He had issues with a larger player guarding him and forced passes out of frustration. He needs to play well for this team to win. He and Allen are the really the only two player who can break down a defense.

 

This fact allowed Pitt to play there men and rarely provide help on drives. Enter Layman who needs a bit of space to fire up couldn't find many free looks last night. Faust was back to his questionable shot selection.

 

The bigs have to get involved in the offense more and that's on the guards. They have to get more confidence in them and at least give them a threat to get to the line. Problem there is that no one really has established themselves. 

 

Smoz was both an asset and a liability. He hit several threes then became a standstill jump shooter in the second half (1 for 8) and tossed up some poor looks.

 

If MD wants to spread the floor in their motion game they must get dribble penetration to the gaps. Then pitch to open wings or break down the defense to get to the rim or look inside. Assist to TO ratio was 8 to 13. Not good. They need more ball movement.

 

By contrast I enjoyed watching Pitt's offense which centered around back/down screens first and then used the dribble. Patient and working to break the will of the defense into the shot clock.They showed much better cohesion and ball security than the Terps.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 02:30 PM

Has anyone seen quotes from Turgeon after the game?  I can't find them anywhere.

 

I have a feeling that nothing said could be reported in a reputable publication.

 

Again, you never know, but I would say he has the best reputation as a shooter coming to MD since Mike Jones.

 

Well, there's a ringing endorsement :lol:

 

Remember when we were all excited because he was the second best 2-guard in his class behind LeBron James? Now that seems like being the second-best NFL quarterback in the 2006 draft class behind Jay Cutler.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:14 AM

Washington Post: Film Review: Defensive Problems
http://www.washingto...-vs-pittsburgh/



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:17 AM

Washington Post: Film Review: Defensive Problems
http://www.washingto...-vs-pittsburgh/

 

#1 and #3 The theme here is poor "help" defense. Rotations are too slow or half-hearted. One more step by most help defenders would have been the difference here.

 

#2 Stop the ball in transition. A simple concept that is ignored here. Dribbler's progress must be halted before the fould line. Players sprint past to protect the basket before they match to their assignments.

 

#4 Clear does the right thing but Allen gets caught on a switch. His recovery inside is too slow and Wells doesn't help either. Zana does a nice job switching hands on the layup.

 

#5 Solid action for the dunk. In the 2-3 baseline players are taught to stay above the block. They can get sucked up higher on ball reversal which leaves them open to screens. Screening the zone is often underrated but effective.

 

#6 Simple concept. Find your target, put a body on him. Fundamentals.

 

#7 Not knowing what Turgeon wants Faust and Layman could have switched that screen to better contest the jumper. Not every coach like sto switch. It really depends on your team and thier abilities if they can do it effectively.

 

As you can figure I really love this stuff. Does the Post usually do this or is this a new segment?


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:22 AM

#1 and #3 The theme here is poor "help" defense. Rotations are too slow or half-hearted. One more step by most help defenders would have been the difference here.

 

#2 Stop the ball in transition. A simple concept that is ignored here. Dribbler's progress must be halted before the fould line. Players sprint past to protect the basket before they match to their assignments.

 

#4 Clear does the right thing but Allen gets caught on a switch. His recovery inside is too slow and Wells doesn't help either. Zana does a nice job switching hands on the layup.

 

#5 Solid action for the dunk. In the 2-3 baseline players are taught to stay above the block. They can get sucked up higher on ball reversal which leaves them open to screens. Screening the zone is often underrated but effective.

 

#6 Simple concept. Find your target, put a body on him. Fundamentals.

 

#7 Not knowing what Turgeon wants Faust and Layman could have switched that screen to better contest the jumper. Not every coach like sto switch. It really depends on your team and thier abilities if they can do it effectively.

 

As you can figure I really love this stuff. Does the Post usually do this or is this a new segment?

 

Not sure if he has done it previously, but noticed Prewitt has done it the last couple of games. We've had Alex on the Lance Rinker Show a couple of times (including Wed)... good guy, good information.






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