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#1 Pedro Cerrano

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

This can be color guy or studio guy. Mine:

-MLB: Ron Daling

NFL: Jaws or Collinsworth, prolly Collinsworth by a hair

NBA: used to be Dr. Jak but he's lost a step. For now Ill take Reggie Miller.

NHL: Melrose

NCAAB: Bilas

NCAAF: Herbstreit.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:19 PM

This can be color guy or studio guy. Mine:

-MLB: Ron Daling

NFL: Jaws or Collinsworth, prolly Collinsworth by a hair

NBA: used to be Dr. Jak but he's lost a step. For now Ill take Reggie Miller.

NHL: Melrose

NCAAB: Bilas

NCAAF: Herbstreit.

MLB: Dan Plesac

NFL: Dilfer

NBA: Steve Kerr

NHL- NA

NCAAB: Bilas

NCAAF: Palmer


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:23 PM

MLB: Brian Kenny
NFL: Mike Mayock
NBA: Hubie Brown

NCAAB: Bilas

NCAAF: Luginbill, Kiper



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:24 PM

MLB: Brian Kenny and Jim Palmer<br />NFL: Dilfer<br />NBA: JVG and of course Charles

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:30 PM

Of the main baseball studio guys, I like Eric Byrnes the best. He's smart, and offers a great balance between the "clubhouse" side of the sport and the analytic side. He should be featured more than he is.

 

I don't really have a favorite color guy (beyond Palmer, who would be too obvious). I did find it interesting that FOX used Tom Verducci in the booth with Gary Thorne for a Saturday game in September; it was a different perspective, and one that I hope we see (hear?) more often.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:31 PM

MLB: Gammons

NFL: Collinsworth

NBA: Barkley

NHL: Keith Jones (just edging out Melrose, because he was a Capital), could be Thorne if he'd go back where he belongs.

NCAAB: Bilas

NCCAF: Van Pelt


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:37 PM

Brian Kenny and Scott Van Pelt arent really "analysts".

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:38 PM

Brian Kenny and Scott Van Pelt arent really "analysts".

 

Why not with Kenny? He often does studio work.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:38 PM

Brian Kenny and Scott Van Pelt arent really "analysts".


Kenny absolutely is.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:39 PM

MMA: Jordan Breen/Ben Fowlkes (online), Brian Stann (TV)

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:40 PM

No, he's not. He's a guy who can look up and regurgitate fancy stats. He's a studio host.

An analyst breaks down the game -- explains why a pitcher throws certain pitches in certain counts, explains defensive alignments, explains how to track a fly ball, explains how a hitter can shorten his swing in certain situations etc etc. He doesn't do any of that.

Put another way, could Kenny do what Palmer or Ron Darling do during game broadcasts?

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:41 PM

I think I should have defined "studio guy" better but I didn't want to not include Jaws who really doesn't do TV work anymore.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:42 PM

For the purposes of this I meant more a color commentary role than anything. But I don't believe Melrose does much TV or radio broadcasts either.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:43 PM

Well that's just your bias against guys like him. He analyzes players and teams on a consistent basis. He's paid to do analysis more than to be a host.<br />

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:45 PM

Could Brian Kenny break down the nuances during a live game? Or can he just talk about what teams have the best xFIP because he can read message boards like this one?

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:46 PM

No, he's not. He's a guy who can look up and regurgitate fancy stats. He's a studio host.

An analyst breaks down the game -- explains why a pitcher throws certain pitches in certain counts, explains defensive alignments, explains how to track a fly ball, explains how a hitter can shorten his swing in certain situations etc etc. He doesn't do any of that.

Put another way, could Kenny do what Palmer or Ron Darling do during game broadcasts?

 

Van Pelt can do all that (though he does it more in blogs), being a former QB and all. But it was either him or Kiper, and I think Mel is kind of a jerk so I went with the Terp instead.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:47 PM

No, he's not. He's a guy who can look up and regurgitate fancy stats. He's a studio host.


An analyst breaks down the game -- explains why a pitcher throws certain pitches in certain counts, explains defensive alignments, explains how to track a fly ball, explains how a hitter can shorten his swing in certain situations etc etc. He doesn't do any of that.


Put another way, could Kenny do what Palmer or Ron Darling do during game broadcasts?


Also, that stuff isn't featured much in games or in studio shows other than the pitch selection part. And Kenny can talk about that stuff; the fancy stats can be effectively used for pitch selection and defensive positioning.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:48 PM

Could Brian Kenny break down the nuances during a live game? Or can he just talk about what teams have the best xFIP because he can read message boards like this one?

 

After Kenny, I would have gone with Palmer... probably more of what you are going for, and I think Palmer is excellent at breaking down many aspects of the game (and also does show that he reads a lot of current discussions as well).

I don't think what Kenny does should be casually dismissed though. What he regurgitates are important aspects of the game that many can't provide.



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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:49 PM

Could Brian Kenny break down the nuances during a live game? Or can he just talk about what teams have the best xFIP because he can read message boards like this one?


I'm confident he can do both, he just specializes in the SABR stuff and lets the baseball players talk about the stuff you're talking about. But the SABR stuff gets into nuances of the game as well.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:50 PM

Van Pelt can do all that (though he does it more in blogs), being a former QB and all. But it was either him or Kiper, and I think Mel is kind of a jerk so I went with the Terp instead.

 

I love Van Pelt as a Terp and an interesting / entertaining guy... think he does a very good job talking NCAAF, NFL, and to a lesser extent NCAAB.


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