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Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:02 PM
I think people will think he made a mistake coming back if he embarasses himself in the Olympics and that will affect his legacy. That's my opinion here!
But as you said, MJ came back to the Wizards and wasn't the same - but how often do you hear anyone talk about that when talking about his legacy? It's still always MJ one of the GOAT's, not MJ, one of the GOAT's but not as good as we thought because he came back too old for the Wizards... Would you agree with that?
HOF
Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:39 PM
But as you said, MJ came back to the Wizards and wasn't the same - but how often do you hear anyone talk about that when talking about his legacy? It's still always MJ one of the GOAT's, not MJ, one of the GOAT's but not as good as we thought because he came back too old for the Wizards... Would you agree with that?
Part of that I think is because the Wizards were bad, it wasn't as big of a deal. Imagine, if he had struggled in the playoffs? MJ is the ultimate GOAT as well (might change in the future). MJ just proved he was human. Speaking as a more casual Wizards fan, it was pretty cool to have MJ play here even if it wasn't in the team's best longterm interests.
HOF
Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:41 PM
Part of that I think is because the Wizards were bad, it wasn't as big of a deal. Imagine, if he had struggled in the playoffs? MJ is the ultimate GOAT as well (might change in the future). MJ just proved he was human. Speaking as a more casual Wizards fan, it was pretty cool to have MJ play here even if it wasn't in the team's best longterm interests.
I don't know, I think the two are similar and don't think Phelps legacy would be impacted, but we can agree to disagree, we've both made our points.
I agree - it was a ton of fun to go see MJ play. I went to the game where he dropped 43 as a 40 year old. First player to score 40 at 40 years or older.
HOF
Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:46 PM
I don't know, I think the two are similar and don't think Phelps legacy would be impacted, but we can agree to disagree, we've both made our points.
I agree - it was a ton of fun to go see MJ play. I went to the game where he dropped 43 as a 40 year old. First player to score 40 at 40 years or older.
Fair enough, we'll see. I think ultimately, there's upside and as long as he gives a respectable performance, he's fine legacy wise.
MJ had his moments as well and every game at Verizon sold out during his time as a Wizard, so from that standpoint it was a success.
HOF
Posted 16 November 2013 - 05:06 PM
I think people will think he made a mistake coming back if he embarasses himself in the Olympics and that will affect his legacy. That's my opinion here!
HOF
Posted 22 December 2013 - 03:51 PM
From the Monumental Network FB page, is it just me or is Phelps always awkward in public appearances?
All Star
Posted 09 April 2014 - 07:53 AM
That's probably fair.
I just think he seems like kind of a douchebag personally.
Taking nothing away from his talent, mind you.
We share a hatred! This is a special moment for me! He seems like a total douche.
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 08:51 AM
We share a hatred! This is a special moment for me! He seems like a total douche.
I think I'm gonna cry.
much like I did during Jeter's retirement announcement in fact...
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:19 AM
I can't believe you guys are dissing a Baltimore kid.
All Star
Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:26 AM
I can't believe you guys are dissing a Baltimore kid.
Excellent point. I forgot the requirement to like all humans from the closet major city to your place of birth. My bad.
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 09:36 AM
I can't believe you guys are dissing a Baltimore kid.
YEA, that's horrible, how dare us!
Yours Truly,
Mark Teixeira
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 03:37 PM
Excellent point. I forgot the requirement to like all humans from the closet major city to your place of birth. My bad.
Well, apparently it is a requirement to like every team around you too.
OTV
Posted 09 April 2014 - 03:45 PM
I can't believe you guys are dissing a Baltimore kid.
Excellent point. I forgot the requirement to like all humans from the closet major city to your place of birth. My bad.
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 04:16 PM
Ray Rice is a saint.
Yes!
Ray Lewis did NOTHING wrong in Atlanta either...
but Roethlisberger should be hung by his balls...
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 04:27 PM
Yes!
Ray Lewis did NOTHING wrong in Atlanta either...
but Roethlisberger should be hung by his balls...
B-Roid only did roids ONCE, he said so, so it's true.
HOF
Posted 09 April 2014 - 04:30 PM
B-Roid only did roids ONCE, he said so, so it's true.
Duh, Steroids are only a Yankees problem...
bigibieseguirobertsgibbonsgrimsleytejadapalmiero
All Star
Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:33 AM
Yes!
Ray Lewis did NOTHING wrong in Atlanta either...
but Roethlisberger should be hung by his balls...
Well, this part I actually agree with a little...
Owner
Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:05 AM
Getting back to Phelps...
Everyone is not going to like everyone.
I've never met him. I've only seen a handful of interviews. I would only say that he's 28 years old, and has been in the public spot light a long time. If he had jerk tendencies as a kid, that might not represent who he is today.
Or maybe they do.
Some of that is eye-of-the-beholder.
Which gets back to things you can quantify. Clearly he is competitive, and accomplished. After taking sometime off from that dedicated regimen after the last Olympics, it doesn't surprise me that he again has the desire to compete.
I'll be rooting for him.
HOF
Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:12 AM
^ It really shouldn't come as that big of a surprise at all. Getting to hang out with the O's, Ravens, and Caps is a lot of fun, but his kind of "profession" has a small shelf life even by athletic standards. Sure you had Dara Torres being competitive into her 40s, but Mark Spitz tried to comeback in his late 30s and couldn't.
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