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[BSLChrisStoner]

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I'm prone to agree with Williams. I know all the reasons why the pro team should be expected to win 10 out of 10 times. However, in any one game scenario at the college location, I think the best college team could pull the upset.

One reason I think that is what we've seen in some international match-ups. Look at this 9/1/06 boxscore of the US vs. Greece: http://www.usabasket...6_mwc_box8.html

I'm sure that Greece team had plenty of European pros, but they were going up against James, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Paul, Bosh etc., and in a one game scenario; they won.

So, is it really absurd to think that Kentucky (with their future pros) could beat Wall, Crawford, Booker, Singleton, and Nene?

[mweb08]

Kentucky may win occasionally, but that's the most optimist I'd be.

[Oriole85]

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I'm prone to agree with Williams. I know all the reasons why the pro team should be expected to win 10 out of 10 times. However, in any one game scenario at the college location, I think the best college team could pull the upset.

One reason I think that is what we've seen in some international match-ups. Look at this 9/1/06 boxscore of the US vs. Greece: http://www.usabasket...6_mwc_box8.html

I'm sure that Greece team had plenty of European pros, but they were going up against James, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Paul, Bosh etc., and in a one game scenario; they won.

So, is it really absurd to think that Kentucky (with their future pros) could beat Wall, Crawford, Booker, Singleton, and Nene?

I think maybe in one time out of ten, the college team would win. Here's the thing though, the worst NBA roster has all NBA player. Kentucky has six or seven, they'll have to sub out some right? I assume we are going to play NBA rules so the game is a little longer. Even with all those NBA players on Kentucky, they are mostly 18-19 year olds going up against more experienced *real* NBA players.

The one thing I will say is I don't think Alabama could ever beat the Colts, simply put it's a numbers game. But in the NBA, not as many matchups. I think this is why upsets are more likely college basketball than college football. You aren't dealing with 22, more specialized positions.

[BSLChrisStoner]

I think maybe in one time out of ten, the college team would win. Here's the thing though, the worst NBA roster has all NBA player. Kentucky has six or seven, they'll have to sub out some right? I assume we are going to play NBA rules so the game is a little longer. Even with all those NBA players on Kentucky, they are mostly 18-19 year olds going up against more experienced *real* NBA players.

The one thing I will say is I don't think Alabama could ever beat the Colts, simply put it's a numbers game. But in the NBA, not as many matchups. I think this is why upsets are more likely college basketball than college football. You aren't dealing with 22, more specialized positions.

Williams' comment, was at Kentucky, so I'd assume college rules.

I agree, I think 1 in 10 (or less) is what I would expect. Possible, but not likely. Just annoyed me seeing so many people saying that it definitively could not happen.

Totally agree with the idea that it is not possible for a College Football team though. Like you said, it is a numbers game, and also the size difference on the Offensive and Defensive lines would be too much to overcome.

[Oriole85]

I think maybe in one time out of ten, the college team would win. Here's the thing though, the worst NBA roster has all NBA player. Kentucky has six or seven, they'll have to sub out some right? I assume we are going to play NBA rules so the game is a little longer. Even with all those NBA players on Kentucky, they are mostly 18-19 year olds going up against more experienced *real* NBA players.

The one thing I will say is I don't think Alabama could ever beat the Colts, simply put it's a numbers game. But in the NBA, not as many matchups. I think this is why upsets are more likely college basketball than college football. You aren't dealing with 22, more specialized positions.

Williams' comment, was at Kentucky, so I'd assume college rules.

I agree, I think 1 in 10 (or less) is what I would expect. Possible, but not likely. Just annoyed me seeing so many people saying that it definitively could not happen.

Totally agree with the idea that it is not possible for a College Football team though. Like you said, it is a numbers game, and also the size difference on the Offensive and Defensive lines would be too much to overcome.

I think playing in Rupp with the college rules would definitely give UK a huge advantage over the Wizards, making it more likely. Still would be a tough task though.

[mweb08]

It's very unlikely that they'd win in a one game meeting.

We're talking about guys that are freshman and sophomores going up against guys that were mostly extremely productive in college and have since further developed. Even Davis as great as he is, would be a rookie out of high school if he was in the NBA. Guys like KG, Kobe, etc weren't that good their rookie years out of high school. MKG and Jones are basically 12 and 7 guys at Kentucky, which is not as productive as guys like Crawford, Booker and Singleton were in college, and especially not Wall, and they've had time to develop since then. Yeah, they are better NBA prospects than the first 3 guys, but that's based on projection at least as much as their current game.

Wall and Nene would likely be the two best players, two of the three best at worst. Booker, Crawford, and Singleton would be as good or better than KU's next best players after Davis.

Heck, Brian Cook and Roger Mason Jr were stars in college.

The Wiz team would clearly have the depth advantage too.

Plus, this is a game that the Wiz would actually get up for in a major way.

[PD24]

I think the top 6 players for Kentucky could beat the top 6 players for the Wizards in a scrimmage maybe 1 out of 8-12 times.

That being said, there are a lot of variables at stake. Like MWEB said, the Wizards are a horrible team because they are very inconsistent, but when they all come together and shoot well and get up for a game (aka vs OKC and LAL this year) they can beat anyone. They would clearly be up for this game vs Kentucky, and likely would win easily because of that.

I think the premise is if the top 6 NBA prospects on Kentucky played the Wizards on a dull Tuesday night in January in front of 5200 fans, could they hang? I think they could.

[SportsGuy]

Kemba Walker was one of the best players in college and led a team to a title...He can't even start for the worst team in the NBA.

The talent difference is amazing.

[PD24]

Kemba Walker was one of the best players in college and led a team to a title...He can't even start for the worst team in the NBA.

The talent difference is amazing.

But Kemba Walker is clearly a top 5 talent right now on the Bobcats.

[mweb08]

But Kemba Walker is clearly a top 5 talent right now on the Bobcats.

Yeah, so he went from being a Junior who was one of the best players in college ball and led his team to a title to a pretty good NBA player one year later. I think that fact heavily supports the Wiz being much better than Kentucky.

[SBTarheel]

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I'm prone to agree with Williams. I know all the reasons why the pro team should be expected to win 10 out of 10 times. However, in any one game scenario at the college location, I think the best college team could pull the upset.

One reason I think that is what we've seen in some international match-ups. Look at this 9/1/06 boxscore of the US vs. Greece: http://www.usabasket...6_mwc_box8.html

I'm sure that Greece team had plenty of European pros, but they were going up against James, Wade, Howard, Anthony, Paul, Bosh etc., and in a one game scenario; they won.

So, is it really absurd to think that Kentucky (with their future pros) could beat Wall, Crawford, Booker, Singleton, and Nene?

Bump:

All of the aforementioned Kentucky guys are now in the NBA, with Davis & MKG being the top 2 picks in the recent draft. Is is fair to say that Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist & Terrence Jones could start over Crawford, Booker, and Singleton?

[SportsGuy]

Bump:

All of the aforementioned Kentucky guys are now in the NBA, with Davis & MKG being the top 2 picks in the recent draft. Is is fair to say that Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist & Terrence Jones could start over Crawford, Booker, and Singleton?

I would take Kentucky's starting 5...its the rest of the team that would struggle.

[mweb08]

Bump:

All of the aforementioned Kentucky guys are now in the NBA, with Davis & MKG being the top 2 picks in the recent draft. Is is fair to say that Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist & Terrence Jones could start over Crawford, Booker, and Singleton?

I think if you combined the Wiz and Kentucky team from last year you'd have this lineup: Wall, Crawford, Kidd-Gilchrist, Davis, and Nene. Booker would be the next best player and the Wiz guys would be substantially better depth wise.

As I pointed out to you before, just look at what the guys on the Wiz did in college and compare it to what the Kentucky guys did in college. Then add years of experience and development to the Wiz guys.

It's not close imo.