Do you agree with Stoglin finishing 2nd team All-ACC?
#1
Posted 05 March 2012 - 05:02 PM
You can rightfully argue that that due to that lack of another consistent scorer, that Stoglin faced additional defensive pressure (as MD's lone real threat), but that gets balanced out by questions of Stoglin's shot selection, defense, and ability to get his teammates involved.
He is exceptionally quick, and a very good scorer. He wants to help MD win games, but has more to learn about playing the game. He will serve himself well by returning, and not attempting to go pro. With a better cast around him, his entire game can improve as a whole.
#2
Posted 05 March 2012 - 05:56 PM
I really hope Terrell comes back next year. I don't think we can make the NCAA's without him, even with the good freshman class coming in. He takes way too much flak for his style of play, IMO. I think any suggestion that we would be better off without him is ridiculous. He isn't anywhere near a negative influence on the team like Gilchrist turned into his junior year. I suppose it's possible that he could still turn that corner and be trying to do too much, but I think he's very capable of playing within the concept Turgeon wants him to, especially next year when there is more talent around him that he can actually trust.
#3
Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:17 PM
I think it's hard to make a really compelling case for Stoglin over any of the players who made the first team. Perhaps Rivers.
I really hope Terrell comes back next year. I don't think we can make the NCAA's without him, even with the good freshman class coming in. He takes way too much flak for his style of play, IMO. I think any suggestion that we would be better off without him is ridiculous. He isn't anywhere near a negative influence on the team like Gilchrist turned into his junior year. I suppose it's possible that he could still turn that corner and be trying to do too much, but I think he's very capable of playing within the concept Turgeon wants him to, especially next year when there is more talent around him that he can actually trust.
Yeah, I agree with this completely. I don't think Stoglin is a bad teammate, I do think he has taken too much abuse, and I think MD has real problems next year without him.
I think if he hangs around the next two years, he is capable of doing some pretty special things as a Terp.
#4
Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:22 PM
#5
Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:50 PM
#6
Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:28 PM
And while I'd prefer to have Stoglin over not having him next year I think we can be fine without him. The key will be getting solid PG play and better low post production.
#7
Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:48 AM
I think it's hard to make a really compelling case for Stoglin over any of the players who made the first team. Perhaps Rivers.
I really hope Terrell comes back next year. I don't think we can make the NCAA's without him, even with the good freshman class coming in. He takes way too much flak for his style of play, IMO. I think any suggestion that we would be better off without him is ridiculous. He isn't anywhere near a negative influence on the team like Gilchrist turned into his junior year. I suppose it's possible that he could still turn that corner and be trying to do too much, but I think he's very capable of playing within the concept Turgeon wants him to, especially next year when there is more talent around him that he can actually trust.
The thing is, I don't remember Gilchrist being that kind of negative influence before his junior year, either. On the other hand, Vasquez displayed some of the same tendencies at this point, too. One player went one way, one player went the other way.
#8
Posted 06 March 2012 - 09:03 AM
"We're not going to be f***ing suck this year" - Alex Ovechkin
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#9
Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:15 AM
Also pleased to see Faust made the All-Freshman team. Not too bad for a guy that many were calling a bust early in the season.
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#10
Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:47 AM
The defense was solid all season long, and solid really doesn't even do it justice.
He's going to be a valuable player going forward, but I don't think he's a star. I do think he'll fill in very nicely for Sean Mosley's tweener/SF type role, getting 10-12 ppg, 5-6 rpg, and a couple assists. Earlier in the season it looked like a tossup between Faust and Parker for who would step up and take that role next year, but now I think it's clearly Faust as this season draws to a close. Perhaps Parker can make strides over the summer, or maybe Layman is more ready than even some optimistic people think, and can challenge him for that role, but I think he'll be able to hold it down.
#11
Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:13 PM
#12
Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:22 PM
#13
Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:24 PM
Great news! Assuming Len decides to stay as well and not go back home, I think the team should be very good next season.
Absolutely. Len is the key. The other two that people have talked about leaving is Pankey and Parker. I hope both of them are back as well.
#14
Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:33 PM
I don't know if I'd agree that Len is thethe key. Him coming back would be really nice, especially if he improves like many think he can, but Stoglin was the key. This could be just a 100% semantic argument, though.Great news! Assuming Len decides to stay as well and not go back home, I think the team should be very good next season.
Absolutely. Len is the key. The other two that people have talked about leaving is Pankey and Parker. I hope both of them are back as well.
I'd prefer if Parker stays, but Pankey I don't really care about unless Len leaves. Pankey's got some skills, but he just doesn't have the overall package and doesn't really seem like a guy that will really work to get every ounce of performance out of the talents he does have. I think Turgeon can do more damage with a free scholarship than Pankey would give us over the next 3 seasons.
#15
Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:47 AM
I think Stoglin is a terrific scorer who would prefer to be able to distribute more, if only he had players he could count on to pass to. I think part of the reason people are hesitant about him in the NBA (and part of the reason he's coming back) is that they aren't as confident in his ability to score consistently there, and no one knows whether he is a good point guard in all other aspects.
I think 2nd team is a great honor in a conference such as the ACC, and I think he is a virtual lock to make 1st team this year.
But back to my original point, I applaud you all for your maturity and level-headedness on this question.
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#16
Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:24 PM
I have to admit, I am impressed by the Maryland fan base representation on here. A lot of my friends who are Maryland guys are going on about a UNC conspiracy to stock the first team, and of course I just roll my eyes at them.
I think Stoglin is a terrific scorer who would prefer to be able to distribute more, if only he had players he could count on to pass to. I think part of the reason people are hesitant about him in the NBA (and part of the reason he's coming back) is that they aren't as confident in his ability to score consistently there, and no one knows whether he is a good point guard in all other aspects.
I think 2nd team is a great honor in a conference such as the ACC, and I think he is a virtual lock to make 1st team this year.
But back to my original point, I applaud you all for your maturity and level-headedness on this question.
I think you hit the nail on the head man. Stoglin is a terrific player really and i know he can distribute the ball but in all honesty, he had no option last season. He had to make the points because they would be out of every game if he didn't. His ball-handeling is great and he can score on isolations with the best.
I believe he should have gotten 1st-team but it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories. You can't argue with all of these guys being a first-team. Look at who was on the 1st team and the second team. You can argue for at least 7 or 8 guys to make first team. If Stoglin was on a contender and had more assists per game, i would bet he would make first team.
He will be on it next season no worries fans.
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