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Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:21 AM
Steelers are trading Antonio Brown to the Raiders (verbal agreement).
http://www.espn.com/...deal-ab-raiders
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 07:46 AM
Raiders traded Amari Cooper for Dallas' 1st round pick. Ends up a 27th, pick value of 780
Now they acquire Antonio Brown for a 3rd (66th) and 5th (141st), values of 260 and 35 = 295
So the equivalent of trading Cooper for AB and an early to mid 2nd rounder. I think the Raiders win this deal, If Brown shows up.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:03 AM
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:32 AM
Can't see how or why. He wasn't owed any more guaranteed money for them to eat. He was due a roster bonus soon, but they wanted to trade him quickly to avoid paying that.
Steelers eating some money too?
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 08:45 AM
Can't see how or why. He wasn't owed any more guaranteed money for them to eat. He was due a roster bonus soon, but they wanted to trade him quickly to avoid paying that.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 09:10 AM
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:03 AM
Steelers eating some money too?
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:51 AM
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:08 PM
A third and a fifth.
Not possible for Pittsburgh to have handled this any worse. Wow.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 09:47 PM
Antonio Brown won this staring contest in every conceivable way. Holy shit.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:00 PM
A third and a fifth.
Not possible for Pittsburgh to have handled this any worse. Wow.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 10:00 PM
Antonio Brown won this staring contest in every conceivable way. Holy shit.
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 11:16 PM
Until he realizes that he is going to a shit situation....he looks so bad PR wise in this.
He doesn't care. He wanted guaranteed money, wanted to leave Pittsburgh, and wanted to screw them in the process. He did all three.
Also PR matters little when he has 3 whole years to clean up his act, if he so chose.
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Posted 11 March 2019 - 05:15 AM
I hate team cancer comments. If that were true, he would have torn that locker room apart long before this year. Quitting on your team is terrible. Which is what he did. And this offseason he's gone full TO.
With that said, he was a great teammate for the rest of his tenure with Pitt. Never made noise, stayed out of trouble, and every report has said he was always one of the first to the practice field and one of the last to leave, and hands down the hardest worker on the team. Those aren't the properties of a team cancer.
I do believe the comments last offseason that Ben and the system made him got to him. He wants to prove it wasn't either. And he wants to get one last huge payday. Someone will pay him. And then he'll be fine.
We'll see what happens when he goes from the #4 offense to the #23 offense and is no longer catching 100+ balls. Not to mention Oakland was a 4 win team in full rebuild mode.
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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:44 AM
My memory of Derrek Carr is that he struggles on deep balls but it pretty good at the short- to mid-range passes that Brown is so deadly on. I don't really see why he'd struggle to get his catches in Oakland. Maybe not 100, but he'll get tons. They'll likely pass it more than they have in the past now that they have Brown. They were about 8 pass attempts per game fewer than the Steelers last year. Brown was getting nearly 1/4 of the Steelers targets, gotta think he'll get at least that if not more in Oakland. So if the Raiders increase by 2 throws a game and target Brown a little more often than the Steelers did, he will be getting more targets overall.
I think the team will stink, but Brown should still be able to put up huge numbers unless he gets very old, very fast, which I doubt.
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Posted 11 March 2019 - 11:19 AM
My memory of Derrek Carr is that he struggles on deep balls but it pretty good at the short- to mid-range passes that Brown is so deadly on. I don't really see why he'd struggle to get his catches in Oakland. Maybe not 100, but he'll get tons. They'll likely pass it more than they have in the past now that they have Brown. They were about 8 pass attempts per game fewer than the Steelers last year. Brown was getting nearly 1/4 of the Steelers targets, gotta think he'll get at least that if not more in Oakland. So if the Raiders increase by 2 throws a game and target Brown a little more often than the Steelers did, he will be getting more targets overall.
I think the team will stink, but Brown should still be able to put up huge numbers unless he gets very old, very fast, which I doubt.
He also had the benefit of Big Ben (much better than Carr) and his ability to extend plays. I think he'll still put up decent numbers, but his days of top 5 are probably over.
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Posted 15 March 2019 - 01:18 PM
SI: The Big Ben Problem in Pittsburgh, According to Two Ex-Steelers
I can't believe that "Ben is the problem here" hasn't become more mainstream.
I mean, I know WHY, but...it's still kinda unbelievable.
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 08:28 PM
Pittsburgh trades up to 10, selects Michigan LB Devin Bush.
Pittsburgh trades 20, 52, and a 2020 3rd to move up to the 10th pick. That's a lot -- based on my draft value chart, Pittsburgh paid at least 150 cents on the dollar for that move.
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 08:39 PM
I value future picks, based on a few years of looking at all these draft day trades, as the midpoint between same pick this year and same pick this year one round later. So future 3rd is worth halfway between current 3rd and current 4th.
Pittsburgh trades up to 10, selects Michigan LB Devin Bush.
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Pittsburgh trades 20, 52, and a 2020 3rd to move up to the 10th pick. That's a lot -- based on my draft value chart, Pittsburgh paid at least 150 cents on the dollar for that move.
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