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[glenn__davis]

What makes you think this isn't a very good move?

 

Not a good defender.  On the wrong side of 30.  

 

It's your classic "paying him for what he's done, not what he's going to do" FA signing.  His worst year by OPS+ is 122.  I would not be shocked if each of the next 5 years is lower than that.

 

That said, 5 years is not too long and it's not a crippling amount by any stretch.  

 

Like I said I don't hate the signing.  They needed to change the narrative around the team.

[Mackus]

You have to trade Mayo and Mountcastle.

Could trade Adley instead of Mayo, but otherwise yes. Assuming they keep Adley which I think it's close to 100%, then yeah, gotta deal Mayo. No path to time for him on a roster with Alonso, Rutschman and Basallo.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

I won't repeat my other comments here, but still the same for me.

I like Alonso. I get why people are excited, but I think the focus is on the wrong things.

You have to trade Mayo and Mountcastle.

Shoo

[Mike B]

Right.  Frankly I think it's not a very good move, but the they needed to make a move to change the narrative.  The symbolism is more important than the actual baseball for this one IMO.

 

Curious to see what dominoes fall from here.  Can't really have Alonso, Mayo and Mountcastle all on the same roster.

Pete makes a soft lineup tougher.  Think how Nelson Cruz changed the lineup in 2014.  I think  Alonso is the enforcer, this lineup has been lacking.

Respectfully, I think this is a good move.  

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Not a good defender. On the wrong side of 30.

It's your classic "paying him for what he's done, not what he's going to do" FA signing. His worst year by OPS+ is 122. I would not be shocked if each of the next 5 years is lower than that.

That said, 5 years is not too long and it's not a crippling amount by any stretch.

Like I said I don't hate the signing. They needed to change the narrative around the team.

Even if he declines he is just a run producer. Guy will get to 30 and 80 RBI min every year even if the BA and defense are down. You need guys to plug into the middle of lineups

[Mike B]

I won't repeat my other comments here, but still the same for me.

 

I like Alonso.  I get why people are excited, but I think the focus is on the wrong things.

 

You have to trade Mayo and Mountcastle.

Just step one Dude.  More moves are coming.  

[TwentyThirtyFive]

And yes hes 31 and it could be a bust of a contract. Players over 30 always carry that risk

[Nigel Tufnel]

What makes you think this isn't a very good move?

 

I mean, the guy's username is Glenn Davis.

[glenn__davis]

Even if he declines he is just a run producer. Guy will get to 30 and 80 RBI min every year even if the BA and defense are down. You need guys to plug into the middle of lineups

 

Sure.  I think he raises the floor of the lineup.

 

I will say, this makes me dislike the trade for Ward a lot less.  I still don't like it but part of why I didn't like that trade was because I thought they were going to say Ward was the "impact hitter" and just stop there.  Adding both Alonso and Ward should provide a much needed jolt.

[BobPhelan]

Westburg
Gunnar
Alonso
Ward
Cowser
Adley
Beavers

Basallo
Holliday

[glenn__davis]

I mean, the guy's username is Glenn Davis.

 

Glenn Davis.  Chris Davis.  At least he's not Pete Davis.  But yeah, 1B typically don't age well.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Could trade Adley instead of Mayo, but otherwise yes. Assuming they keep Adley which I think it's close to 100%, then yeah, gotta deal Mayo. No path to time for him on a roster with Alonso, Rutschman and Basallo.

Especially if they keep ONeill who I think will get some DH ABs. Mayo is being moved for a SP. Framework likely already in place

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I won't repeat my other comments here, but still the same for me.

I like Alonso. I get why people are excited, but I think the focus is on the wrong things.

You have to trade Mayo and Mountcastle.

Where should the focus be oh wise one?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Westburg
Gunnar
Alonso
Ward
Cowser
Adley
Beavers

Basallo
Holliday

 

Saw a post saying Alonso would be the lowest drafted player in this lineup at 64th overall (except for Basallo, who wasn't draft eligible).

[Mashed Potatoes]

Westburg
Gunnar
Alonso
Ward
Cowser
Adley
Beavers
Basallo
Holliday

Lotta upside here

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Thats a helluva lineup!

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Westburg
Gunnar
Alonso
Ward
Cowser
Adley
Beavers
Basallo
Holliday

If healthy give me ONeill over Beavers

[BaltBird 24]

Shocked. Come on, March.

[NewMarketSean]

Cowser batting 5th...LOL

[Mike B]

Especially if they keep ONeill who I think will get some DH ABs. Mayo is being moved for a SP. Framework likely already in place

I think it could be Gore or one of the Marlins starters (Cabrera).  I am still hoping for Joe Ryan though.  I think they sign a good starter too.