I'd rather have Nimmo than Semien. Don't really get this trade for the Mets unless the Rangers are sending a bunch of cash which doesnt' seem to be the case.

Wonder if Eovaldi could be a trade target for the O's if the Rangers are looking to save money. Short-term deal is something you know they'd prefer.

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Posted 23 November 2025 - 07:15 PM

I'd rather have Nimmo than Semien. Don't really get this trade for the Mets unless the Rangers are sending a bunch of cash which doesnt' seem to be the case.

Wonder if Eovaldi could be a trade target for the O's if the Rangers are looking to save money. Short-term deal is something you know they'd prefer.

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Posted 23 November 2025 - 07:16 PM

Also Mets are probably close to signing Tucker or something

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#14 Mackus

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Posted 23 November 2025 - 07:17 PM

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Yeah, I'm in on that as well. Worry about his injuries, obviously, but cant' beat the production and only two years left.

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Posted 24 November 2025 - 07:00 AM

Yeah, I'm in on that as well. Worry about his injuries, obviously, but cant' beat the production and only two years left.

DeGrom is going on 38, pitched, by far, his most innings since 2019, was no ace in the 2nd half last year, and makes 2/75. Could it work out? Sure. However, that seems like the worst sucker bet since Tyler O’Neill, only worse.

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Posted 24 November 2025 - 07:46 AM

DeGrom is going on 38, pitched, by far, his most innings since 2019, was no ace in the 2nd half last year, and makes 2/75. Could it work out? Sure. However, that seems like the worst sucker bet since Tyler O’Neill, only worse.

O'Neill wasn't a bad bet, risks were understood. Hasn't worked out but that doesn't make it stupid, IMO. Look at what it just cost us to get his production without the injury risks.

DeGrom obviously carries big risk and you'd have to plan for that. Honestly still having Rodriguez would've been a big part of the backup plan, but Wells also could work. As one of two additions, I'd be very interested. He's not underpaid, so wouldn't think he'd take significant talent to acquire.

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Posted 24 November 2025 - 07:53 AM

O'Neill wasn't a bad bet, risks were understood. Hasn't worked out but that doesn't make it stupid, IMO. Look at what it just cost us to get his production without the injury risks.

DeGrom obviously carries big risk and you'd have to plan for that. Honestly still having Rodriguez would've been a big part of the backup plan, but Wells also could work. As one of two additions, I'd be very interested. He's not underpaid, so wouldn't think he'd take significant talent to acquire.

A 3 year commitment to a player with O’Neill’s history was a bad bet. The signing was/is debatable and you can argue it was worth the risk but it was a bad bet to hope for a one and done. DeGrom is a more expensive and worse bet although there is certainly a slim chance of great upside.

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Posted 24 November 2025 - 08:14 AM

I don't think DeGrom is dramatically more risky than most of the other FA options available. More, yes, but depending on price to acquire the over profile could make more sense for DeGrom than Cease or Suarez or King or whomever else. I think the production upside is as high or higher than all the others, so much so that the extra risk is balanced out.

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Posted 24 November 2025 - 08:31 AM

I don't think DeGrom is dramatically more risky than most of the other FA options available. More, yes, but depending on price to acquire the over profile could make more sense for DeGrom than Cease or Suarez or King or whomever else. I think the production upside is as high or higher than all the others, so much so that the extra risk is balanced out.

Disagree. I think DeGrom has about 20% chance of repeating last year. Sure, less long term risk than Cease but Cease is a good bet to at least give innings and 50/50 on being a #2 type guy. Degrom was 3-6 with a 4+ ERA in the 2nd half of the first healthy season he had in 6 years.