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[Mike B]

I'm totally good with a DT. You win superbowls by collapsing the pocket.

I am good adding high draft picks on either side of the ball.but like you, I would be happy with Banks.

[Biggsy]

A DT would be disappointing

Woods would be far from disappointing. Not my favorite pick at 14. But disappointing isnt the adjective I'd use for him.

[Biggsy]

If youre gonna take a G in the top half of a draft he has to be an All Pro. Not potentially an All Pro. Not a Pro Bowler. A lock. Like Zach Martin. Like Quenten Nelson. That isnt Ionane.


I think Id rather them take a college OT that may be able to take over for Stanley but can start his career inside at G vs just taking a G if we are going OL early.

Why are you so aure Ioane isn't that good ? 0 sacks, 0 QB hits, and only 4 hurries across 613 snaps last season. In the past 2, 0 sacks and 1 QB hit. In the Big 10. Idc what his physical testing says, those are elite numbers.

Now where I do tend to agree, is that I'm starting to move away from him being the pick at 14. Bain could definitely take a tumble. He seems like the guy thats getting the Kyle Hamilton treatment this offseason. If he does somehow fall to 14, I would hope EDC sprints to the podium.

14 is far enough back that it makes it tough to truly predict who will be there. Not to mention free agency, which could certainly impact their draft board.

I still lean with an "un-sexy" pick at 14, Ioane or Woods. But Bain is starting to feel like a slight possibility. Lemon feels like he dropped himself into the late first or worse with a plethora of horrid interviews. Tate didn't exactly impress with his combine. So who knows. Maybe we get a clearer picture after the first week of free agency.

[jamesdean]

Why are you so aure Ioane isn't that good ? 0 sacks, 0 QB hits, and only 4 hurries across 613 snaps last season. In the past 2, 0 sacks and 1 QB hit. In the Big 10. Idc what his physical testing says, those are elite numbers.

Now where I do tend to agree, is that I'm starting to move away from him being the pick at 14. Bain could definitely take a tumble. He seems like the guy thats getting the Kyle Hamilton treatment this offseason. If he does somehow fall to 14, I would hope EDC sprints to the podium.

14 is far enough back that it makes it tough to truly predict who will be there. Not to mention free agency, which could certainly impact their draft board.

I still lean with an "un-sexy" pick at 14, Ioane or Woods. But Bain is starting to feel like a slight possibility. Lemon feels like he dropped himself into the late first or worse with a plethora of horrid interviews. Tate didn't exactly impress with his combine. So who knows. Maybe we get a clearer picture after the first week of free agency.

I'll still stand by Ioane being the best choice at 14.  I'm not as excited about Woods, although the Ravens certainly could use help on the DL. I would be a bit disappointed if EDC goes that route.  As far as Bain goes, I seriously doubt he'll still be around when the Ravens pick. I would be stunned if he isn't gone within the first 6 or 7 picks.  Him and Reese are worthy, top 5.  And even if Lemon had perfect interviews, I still think it's a foolish choice to go with any of the receivers at 14.  

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Mock Draft

https://www.cbssport...nd-projections/

 

14. Ravens

Caleb Banks, DL, Florida

 

The Ravens struggled to stop the run last season, and even with Nnamdi Madubuike at full health, there is room for a game-wrecker like Banks along the defensive line.

[Biggsy]

I'll still stand by Ioane being the best choice at 14. I'm not as excited about Woods, although the Ravens certainly could use help on the DL. I would be a bit disappointed if EDC goes that route. As far as Bain goes, I seriously doubt he'll still be around when the Ravens pick. I would be stunned if he isn't gone within the first 6 or 7 picks. Him and Reese are worthy, top 5. And even if Lemon had perfect interviews, I still think it's a foolish choice to go with any of the receivers at 14.

I felt the same way about Hamilton. I said it multiple times pre-draft, that I felt he was the best player in the draft. Didn't think there was any way possible a 6'4", 225 lbs game wrecker, with elite level production, would make it to the Ravens. But here we are.

I like Bain a lot. Very similar play style as guys like Suggs and Clowney. Really hoping they nit-pick him all the way down to 14.

[jamesdean]

I felt the same way about Hamilton. I said it multiple times pre-draft, that I felt he was the best player in the draft. Didn't think there was any way possible a 6'4", 225 lbs game wrecker, with elite level production, would make it to the Ravens. But here we are.

I like Bain a lot. Very similar play style as guys like Suggs and Clowney. Really hoping they nit-pick him all the way down to 14.

The best thing Hamilton did for the Ravens pre-draft was agreeing to run the 40. His slow time ultimately scared off teams picking ahead of Baltimore. I remember EDC saying he was stunned to see Hamilton fall to him. Plus, positional preference probably didn't help him. The only way I can see Bain falling to 14 is because of his short arms and teams fixating on that as being problematic. Maybe Downs being a safety has a similar tumble on the board. And what if Jeremiyah Love fell to the Ravens because he's a running back? Would EDC be tempted to pull the trigger on Henry's possible replacement down the road? Teaming Love with Lamar would be a potentially dynamic combo. If Bailey is there at 14, I think I take him. He's probably the best, pure pass rusher in the draft.

[Biggsy]

The best thing Hamilton did for the Ravens pre-draft was agreeing to run the 40. His slow time ultimately scared off teams picking ahead of Baltimore. I remember EDC saying he was stunned to see Hamilton fall to him. Plus, positional preference probably didn't help him. The only way I can see Bain falling to 14 is because of his short arms and teams fixating on that as being problematic. Maybe Downs being a safety has a similar tumble on the board. And what if Jeremiyah Love fell to the Ravens because he's a running back? Would EDC be tempted to pull the trigger on Henry's possible replacement down the road? Teaming Love with Lamar would be a potentially dynamic combo. If Bailey is there at 14, I think I take him. He's probably the best, pure pass rusher in the draft.

I've already explained my feelings about Bailey. I think he goes before a lot of people are thinking. Possibly as early as the Jets at the 2nd pick. To me, I feel like its between him and Downs or Love as the best overall players in the draft. I think Bailey leaving the top 10 is a pipe dream. Downs has a chance, but I feel like he'll end up with the Commanders.

[Biggsy]

Well all of this talk about the 14th pick is null and void. No firsts for the next two years. Crosby is better than anyone we would have drafted at 14 this season. Guess we're Definitely still in win now mode.

[Slidemaster]

Well all of this talk about the 14th pick is null and void. No firsts for the next two years. Crosby is better than anyone we would have drafted at 14 this season. Guess we're Definitely still in win now mode.

Do we know that?

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Do we know that?

Something you can obviously say on draft nignt. How bout this time next year.

[BSLMikeLowe]

So who do y’all like at #45?

[Biggsy]

Do we know that?

For sure? Obviously not. But odds say the all-pro DE is going to be a lot better than a rookie drafted at 14. I love Hamilton. Have since day one. Crosby is better than Hamilton was as a rookie. And Hamilton is arguably the best safety in football today, and based on the importance of position, an argument could be made that an elite edge player is better than an elite safety.

[Biggsy]

So who do y’all like at #45?

Rueben Bain did have really short arms. 🤣

[Biggsy]

Something you can obviously say on draft nignt. How bout this time next year.

Anyone can clearly cherry pick and say "X player was available if we didnt trade our pick."

If someone wants to call a player out that the Ravens could have realistically drafted at 14 before the season plays out, snd they are better than Crosby, I'll gladly give you your flowers.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

And if Maxx gets hurt it could be any number of players drafted at 14 or below. But the main problem isnt trading away the 2026 pick for Crosby. Its how much we gave up beyond the 2026 pick

[Biggsy]

And if Maxx gets hurt it could be any number of players drafted at 14 or below. But the main problem isnt trading away the 2026 pick for Crosby. Its how much we gave up beyond the 2026 pick

I don't like losing the 2027 pick. I feel like next seasons draft class has the potential to be a generational type of draft class. But if this move gets you picking in the 30's, I guess it was still worth it.

The injury argument is a weak one though. Sure, Crosby could get hurt. But so could whoever you draft at 14. You can't base your moves around the possibility of injuries.

What if Crosby puts up 15+ sacks, 70+ total pressures, 30+ TFL's, 60+ stops and 5+ FF's ?

Thats a DPOY type of season, and he's had a couple of seasons close to those numbers already, so not unrealistic. So sure, he could get injured and miss the season. He could also put up massive DPOY type of numbers. Thats the risk you take. For me personally, the juice is definitely worth the squeeze in this scenario.