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[Pedro Cerrano]

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[Mackus]

They do like tall pitchers

[Mackus]

Giant with low velocity. Maybe they can pump him up a bit.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Looking to develop him a bit. Cant teach 6'8 and deception. Improve the velo and breaking stuff and you have a chance to have something very good.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Law had him as his #94 prospect.

 

Scouting Report

Bats: R, Throws: L

Dzierwa is a changeup lefty with good control, working with a somewhat stiff delivery and no windup and going after right-handed hitters with a low-90s heater and a plus changeup. The pitch has a lot of tumble to it and hitters don’t seem to pick it up well, whiffing on it in and out of the zone. Against lefties, he mostly throws the fastball and prefers his mid-70s curveball, which has some two-plane break to it but just doesn’t miss a lot of bats. He struck out 28 percent of batters he faced this year while walking just 5.9 percent, with the changeup getting the highest whiff rate of all his pitches at 39 percent. With his above-average to plus control he might be a back-end starter, although he’d be more valuable if he had a better breaking pitch for better results against lefties.

 

MLB Draft 2025 top 100 prospects: Ethan Holliday, Liam Doyle and Kade Anderson lead the way - The Athletic

[BobPhelan]

https://x.com/TimSta...574239337599410

MLB Pipeline says 92-93, maxed at 95.

[Slidemaster]

https://x.com/TimSta...574239337599410

MLB Pipeline says 92-93, maxed at 95.

That's #5/6 starter stuff.

[BaltBird 24]

That's #5/6 starter stuff.

Yeah, like Max Fried. Not saying this kid is the next Max Fried, but he's 6'8 and 200 pounds. Not impossible to think he can't bulk up and add a couple MPH.

[Slidemaster]

Yeah, like Max Fried. Not saying this kid is the next Max Fried, but he's 6'8 and 200 pounds. Not impossible to think he can't bulk up and add a couple MPH.

There are exceptions to every rule of course, but if you were building a starting pitcher from the ground up, there's not a chance you'd pick velo that low.

I'm not writing the kid off, but they better have a plan to get him sitting regularly in the 94-96 range.

Also, according to his savant page, Fried's fastball velo sits around 94.6.

[BobPhelan]

That's #5/6 starter stuff.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. But if you can develop a back end starter that’s still a win.

[Mackus]

https://x.com/TimSta...574239337599410

MLB Pipeline says 92-93, maxed at 95.

The MLB coverage showed his average velocity this past year and it was below 92 if I remember correctly.

When you're that tall you're generally releasing closer to the plate so can cheat it a bit that way. And always possible to add some velocity these days with the additional training. Think I already said this but the scouting reports feel like Cade Povich to me. Guy on the broadcast compared him to Mark Hendrickson. Interesting enough arm. 2nd round isn't like you're expecting to find an everyday player or starting pitcher.

[Slidemaster]

You have no idea what you’re talking about. But if you can develop a back end starter that’s still a win.

Okay. Hope you're right. Not many guys out there, even back-end starters, who throw in the low 90s with relative success. I know there are some. No need to point them out. But it's not something you'd prefer.

[BobPhelan]

Okay. Hope you're right. Not many guys out there, even back-end starters, who throw in the low 90s with relative success. I know there are some. No need to point them out. But it's not something you'd prefer.

My point is these guys are drafted as building blocks. And he has a great foundation. The frame is there to add velo but it already plays up, he has a plus changeup, and good command. They’ll add and tweak pitches. But that goes for all the pitchers they took. Quinn is my favorite of the bunch.

[Mike B]

I don't know anything about this kid, but there are more ways to getting hitters out, than with just velocity.  There have been many great pitchers who could locate a ball anywhere in the strike zone depending on the hitters weakness.  That art is largely forgotten today.  Some smart organization is going to get back to that.  Why not the Orioles?  Velocity and spin is King right now, but IMO it is coming at a high price.  Add a tick or two to this kid, but also teach him how to pitch.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I don't know anything about this kid, but there are more ways to getting hitters out, than with just velocity. There have been many great pitchers who could locate a ball anywhere in the strike zone depending on the hitters weakness. That art is largely forgotten today. Some smart organization is going to get back to that. Why not the Orioles? Velocity and spin is King right now, but IMO it is coming at a high price. Add a tick or two to this kid, but also teach him how to pitch.

What you said is not wrong. But when a pure control pitcher is off he's going to get torched. O's have several of those guys right now.

But a high velocity guy can still get hitters on with pure speed. And yes they can get roughed up too but you get get point.

[JeremyStrain]

What you said is not wrong. But when a pure control pitcher is off he's going to get torched. O's have several of those guys right now.

But a high velocity guy can still get hitters on with pure speed. And yes they can get roughed up too but you get get point.

Not EXACTLY, but yes your point is pretty close. When a guy like that is off it can be bad because there is less room for error with lower velo, BUT a guy that knows how to pitch, changes speeds, locates well, and keeps hitters off balance can be perfectly fine if one, MAYBE if two things are off in a given day because they have more weapons. Now given, if it's his control is off, then that's a little more damaging, BUT it comes down to individual pitches too. The FB might be off, but say he's got 3 other pitches that are legit weapons, he can still get by like that. It comes down to HOW he uses them. If a power pitcher loses one of his two big pitches, the ones left over are usually not enough to overcome. 

 

The overall profile isn't far off from say Greg Maddux. He wasn't a power pitcher, and he didn't always have perfect control, sometimes he'd be off a bit, but he was probably the smartest pitcher we have ever seen, and would dig into his bag like it was his golf clubs, and if the 7 iron wasn't working, the 5 iron would get a workout that day. 

[Mike B]

What you said is not wrong. But when a pure control pitcher is off he's going to get torched. O's have several of those guys right now.

But a high velocity guy can still get hitters on with pure speed. And yes they can get roughed up too but you get get point.

For Years pitchers got batters out by "pitching".  There is no doubt, the craft can still be used effectively.  I would like to see the Orioles sign a veteran pitching coach. 

[mikezpen]

Threw 6-inning shutout w/1 hit, 1 walk and nine K's in first start yesterday. Bears watching. Looks like an early promotion to Chesapeake. On other hand, I've seen lefties with good pitching skills devastate low minors but get slammed later on. We'll see.

[mikezpen]

Another good one tonite.5 ing 4 hits 1 W, 1 earned run and 9 K's. Has 2.35 ERA.  Bowie rotation's getting a boost, soon.

[BaltBird 24]

Yeah, he'll probably be fast tracked to AA. Quinn may not be very far behind him.