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#21 BaltBird 24

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:16 PM

I can't believe we're at a point where inserting Gibson into the rotation is supposed to save our season.

How f'kin sad.

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:20 PM

I can't believe we're at a point where inserting Gibson into the rotation is supposed to save our season.

How f'kin sad.

Its not supposed to save our season. The GM and the players have to figure out if they are just going to feel sorry for themselves the rest of the year or find their balls. Hyde is a dead man walking and has been for awhile. He doesnt matter.  If Elias cant pull the trigger on him and if the players cant get their heads out of their ass then we have real issues. Ill sit here and crap all over Hyde because he is horrible and Ive said it since the jump. That doesnt excuse the players for being soft



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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:22 PM

We all remember the immediate results Buck Showalter got when he was hired in August 2010 (32-73 before, and 34-23 after). Not saying Elias doesn't deserve a lot of blame for this disaster (he absolutely does), but a new voice via a manager who had a subtle but obvious way of demanding accountability made a huge difference with no meaningful changes at all to the roster.



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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:23 PM

The players are absolutely soft. Maybe that changes with a new manager. Maybe it doesn't. At this point, there's absolutely zero harm in trying. They'll never regret moving on from Hyde, but can certainly continue to regret sticking with him.
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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:26 PM

They've got to start winning series, that's where it starts.

And it's hard to win series, or put together a .500 month, or a .580 month when you aren't getting starting pitching which gives you a chance.

The next month?

Swap Gibson for Morton.
Hope to get Eflin back mid-May.

Need Kremer, Sugano, Povich, Young to not immediately take you out of games.... and mainly, you need the offense to wake up.

Too many guys hitting below expectations.
If they all wake up in May (while Mullins, and ROH come back to Earth), the offense has the capability of a .500+ month if the SP is somewhere near below-average to average and just not outright horrible.

By June this team could be 15+ under .500.

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:27 PM


We all remember the immediate results Buck Showalter got when he was hired in August 2010 (32-73 before, and 34-23 after). Not saying Elias doesn't deserve a lot of blame for this disaster (he absolutely does), but a new voice via a manager who had a subtle but obvious way of demanding accountability made a huge difference with no meaningful changes at all to the roster.

If the culture doesnt change it wont matter. I really believe that. Take nothing away from the way they played for 2 straight years in the reg season from June '22- June of '24. They earned all those reg season wins. Still, they were and are still clearly missing something. The playoff disasters werent just random bad luck. They need to change some things culturally and hope that leads to a team that focuses better and plays with more of an edge

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:32 PM


I think it's been on him for two weeks now.


He shouldn’t have come back from Arizona, April 9th. Yeah that felt early, but things seemed clear.
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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:39 PM

Where is the fight. Just break it down into ABs. You know why I love OHearn right now and Javkson is starting to get there too. Freaking lock in and battle in ABs. They may not win em but there is fight. Some of the bigger names to show more focus and fight and stop giving so many ABs away

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 11:02 PM

I appreciate the attempt at being optimistic. We need that balance to counter jerks like me that always assume the worst. That said i I hope those optimists are right but can’t fathom a scenario where they are. This team blows. Fire our worthless GM

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 11:54 PM

I wonder how many games this season have been lost due to the poor fundamentals that have plagued the team thus far. I'm sure there have been at least a few. Play clean, fundamental baseball in a couple of those games and maybe the Ls become Ws. Even three such games would put us at 13-14 and flirting with .500.

 

I'm not talking errors per se, because those happen to the best of teams, but how many instances have there been of not hitting the cut-off man, throwing to the wrong base, or not covering the base altogether? Or swinging away against a pitcher who's struggling to find the strike zone? The Orioles are not good enough right now to overcome these types of deficiencies, and they certainly cannot afford to help out the other team. 



#31 russsnyder

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Posted 28 April 2025 - 04:39 AM

This team is playing like they expect bad things to happen. And they do happen.
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#32 Mashed Potatoes

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 05:36 AM

Still 135 games left? Depressing
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Posted 29 April 2025 - 10:19 AM

There is a tad bit of good news. Our schedule in May is favorable. The Red Sox are the only series we play the entire month against a team with a winning record. If we can't win in May then we are done.



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 10:34 AM

There is a tad bit of good news. Our schedule in May is favorable. The Red Sox are the only series we play the entire month against a team with a winning record. If we can't win in May then we are done.

I totally understand what your saying, because a soft schedule could help them get on track. Or at least keep them afloat.

 

But I hate what that really says about the team. I certainly didn't think we'd be rooting for a perfect set of circumstances, to keep this team within sniffing distance. After years of tanking, I thought we'd get more than 2 playoff seasons, before falling back into the also ran crowd (which is who they are, on this day).


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#35 glenn__davis

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 11:39 AM

Still 135 games left? Depressing


134 now. 1-0 baby.

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Posted 29 April 2025 - 12:30 PM

Seeing what Norby, Stowers and Hays are doing in their post O's tenures, (albeit, SSS) I can't help but wonder what buttons are or aren't being pushed here that are causing our younger guys to struggle?

Are we suffering from paralysis through analysis as the result of too much data?

Are the major league hitting coaches just not connecting with the players?

Should we have shied away from bringing in a hitting coach from one of the worst offenses in baseball? 

Is the organizational philosophy of chasing the platoon advantage, resulting in being yo-yo'd in and out of the lineup hurting development and production?

 

I have a lot of questions and not a lot of answers but I will say this, I've watched a lot of bad baseball in my 47 years on this big blue marble yet I remain optimistic. Between a return to health, some better luck and normalization, I think this group is capable of finding its sea legs and getting hot. Will it happen? I suppose our curiosity will be satisfied.


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 12:34 PM

Norby and Stowers arent very good but its fair to start wondering about Ashe and Joesph



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 01:56 PM

Seeing what Norby, Stowers and Hays are doing in their post O's tenures, (albeit, SSS) I can't help but wonder what buttons are or aren't being pushed here that are causing our younger guys to struggle?

Are we suffering from paralysis through analysis as the result of too much data?

Are the major league hitting coaches just not connecting with the players?

Should we have shied away from bringing in a hitting coach from one of the worst offenses in baseball? 

Is the organizational philosophy of chasing the platoon advantage, resulting in being yo-yo'd in and out of the lineup hurting development and production?

 

I have a lot of questions and not a lot of answers but I will say this, I've watched a lot of bad baseball in my 47 years on this big blue marble yet I remain optimistic. Between a return to health, some better luck and normalization, I think this group is capable of finding its sea legs and getting hot. Will it happen? I suppose our curiosity will be satisfied.

Heard a really good discussion on MLB radio couple of days ago. The bottom line point was that every team has access to the same detailed data. Its how you use it and communicate it to the players is that ends in the results you get.

 

When our entire core is struggling it points to a systemic issue in how they are being instructed. 



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Posted 29 April 2025 - 02:07 PM

Seeing what Norby, Stowers and Hays are doing in their post O's tenures, (albeit, SSS) I can't help but wonder what buttons are or aren't being pushed here that are causing our younger guys to struggle?

Are we suffering from paralysis through analysis as the result of too much data?

Are the major league hitting coaches just not connecting with the players?

Should we have shied away from bringing in a hitting coach from one of the worst offenses in baseball? 

Is the organizational philosophy of chasing the platoon advantage, resulting in being yo-yo'd in and out of the lineup hurting development and production?

 

I have a lot of questions and not a lot of answers but I will say this, I've watched a lot of bad baseball in my 47 years on this big blue marble yet I remain optimistic. Between a return to health, some better luck and normalization, I think this group is capable of finding its sea legs and getting hot. Will it happen? I suppose our curiosity will be satisfied.

Hays certainly had his good and bad times in Baltimore.  When he was healthy, he was usually pretty good.   His issue was staying on the field.

Stowers and Norby really never got a chance to show what they could do in Baltimore.

Stowers only got 157 AB, which is nothing.

Norby even less.  He got 32 AB.

I hated the trade when they made it, and still do.  I feel like we have gifted the Marlins some players in the Elias tenure.

 

I think most young players struggle when they first get to the majors.  I don't think it is an Oriole thing.


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Posted 29 April 2025 - 02:09 PM

Norby and Stowers arent very good but its fair to start wondering about Ashe and Joesph

I think they are better than you want to give them credit for.   I hope they eventually get something out of Rogers, but that trade made zero sense to me. 


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