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[BSLSteveBirrer]

Made Domunguez have to throw too many pitches but got the W.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Yeah you can cheer all you want. You arent winning enough in Oct giving teams this many extra outs

Yep.

[BaltBird 24]

Most wins, best record in the AL. I'll take it.

[CantonJester]

The Beard TM  made an amazing grab of a pretty freakin errant throw by Adley on that double steal. If he doesn't come up with that, Jonny DeLuca (having just stole 2B) is basically Jorge Mateo running the bases. It would've meant Cowser would've had to throw accurately to home plate. There's zero chance they would've gotten him on a relay. 

 

Huge stab by The Beard. Saved the game. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The Beard TM made an amazing grab of a pretty freakin errant throw by Adley on that double steal. If he doesn't come up with that, Jonny DeLuca (having just stole 2B) is basically Jorge Mateo running the bases. It would've meant Cowser would've had to throw accurately to home plate. There's zero chance they would've gotten him on a relay.

Huge stab by The Beard. Saved the game.

I would hope Cowser broke immediadely as Adley was coming up to throw. Think he should have had enough time to hold the runner from scoring

[CantonJester]

I would hope Cowser broke immediadely as Adley was coming up to throw. Think he should have had enough time to hold the runner from scoring

 

Sure, but what matters is where he was positioned at the start of the play, cuz if he was shaded towards CF there's no chance he gets DeLuca at the plate. If he was positioned normally, then yeah, there's a play at the plate cuz the 3B coach would be challenging Cowser's accuracy. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The bottom line is they were a hair away from imploding multiple times in this game because of defense. Again. OHearn, Henderson, and nearly Adley all put too much pressure on the pitchers.

[You Play to Win the Game]

The bottom line is they were a hair away from imploding multiple times in this game because of defense. Again. OHearn, Henderson, and nearly Adley all put too much pressure on the pitchers.

It’s just who they are. Obviously not very much effort is being put into this.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

It’s just who they are. Obviously not very much effort is being put into this.

Agreed. On the coaches to demand and make sure they get better.

[CantonJester]

The fact O’Hearn is their only starting first baseman is an indictment on Elias. All the injuries complicate the roster up and down, but O’Hearn was the guy getting routing starts at 1B to spell Mounty. That was crap. It’s always been crap. 

 

I’ve no idea why Mayo didn’t get a 100% diet of 1B this season in Norfolk. 

 

How is it that Westy > Gunnar > Jackson > Coby doesn’t resonate?!

[RichardZ]

If all it took was demanding and hard work, each team would have about 10 errors for the year. These guys aren’t robots. No doubt the defense has been and still is a problem. O’Hearn is a below average 1B but to say he should never wear a glove is silly. Henderson is a talented player in his first full season as a SS. Call it growing pains, lack of experience, or whatever. We’re just going to have to go through it and hope for the best. Henderson IS the SS. It’s not changing anytime soon. O’Hearn is the #1 option while Mountcastle is out. Suck it up.

[Mackus]

I think O'Hearn is pretty close to "never wear a glove" levels. We're in a pickle right now with Mountcastle hurt and Mayo not yet trusted, but this type of double fault is the only scenario where I'd have O'Hearn in the field regularly.

[RichardZ]

I think O'Hearn is pretty close to "never wear a glove" levels. We're in a pickle right now with Mountcastle hurt and Mayo not yet trusted, but this type of double fault is the only scenario where I'd have O'Hearn in the field regularly.

IE he’s the best option right now. By the way, O’Hearn had a +3 OAA at 1B last year but he’s definitely having a bad stretch this year. For someone to include Mayo (not you) as a better alternative is laughable. The kid made 6 errors in 21 starts at 1B in Norfolk plus he’s got no ML experience there. That just shows a reactionary, total lack of logic take.

[russsnyder]

IE he’s the best option right now. By the way, O’Hearn had a +3 OAA at 1B last year but he’s definitely having a bad stretch this year. For someone to include Mayo (not you) as a better alternative is laughable. The kid made 6 errors in 21 starts at 1B in Norfolk plus he’s got no ML experience there. That just shows a reactionary, total lack of logic take.

Both of your posts about O'Hearn are spot on. The notion that the guy shouldn't be wearing a glove is preposterous. He should have made that play in the 7th, however, it wasn't an easy chance. When you play the corners, you are going to get some tough chances and tough errors.As you stated, he is the option at first right now. Ramirez will get some run against lefties, however, He's not much of an offensive threat.

On the surface, Mayo's defensive profile seems similar to O'Hearn's. He appears to be a bit stiff in the field and I bet He's a worse outfielder than O'Hearn. Mayo's challenge is that he has to prove that he can hit MLB pitching well enough to force his way into the lineup despite his defensive limitations. O'Hearn has already accomplished this.

All that said, I get the overall concern with the Orioles defense.While I think Holliday is not as good as Mateo defensively,the bigger loss was at third with Westburg going down. Urias filled in well, but his defense left something to be desired before he went down. Mayo just isn't a good defender right now and Ramirez is journeyman fill in guy.

Lastly, the biggest issue with the infield defense right now is the inconsistent play of Henderson. I love Gunnar, but he needs to be spelled a bit in the field. I would slide Soto or Maton at short a couple of times a week the next few weeks. DH Gunnar and take some ABs from the slumping Rutschmann. At the end of the day, the defense is and will be a concern because you have to make plays at any level of play.

[RichardZ]

Both of your posts about O'Hearn are spot on. The notion that the guy shouldn't be wearing a glove is preposterous. He should have made that play in the 7th, however, it wasn't an easy chance. When you play the corners, you are going to get some tough chances and tough errors.As you stated, he is the option at first right now. Ramirez will get some runs against lefties, however, He's not much of an offensive threat.
On the surface, Mayo's defensive profile seems similar to O'Hearn's. He appears to be a bit stiff in the field and I bet He's a worse outfielder than O'Hearn. Mayo's challenge is that he has to prove that he can hit MLB pitching well enough to force his way into the lineup despite his defensive limitations. O'Hearn has slready accomplished this.
All that said, I get the overall concern with the Orioles defense.While I think Holliday is not as good as Mateo defensively,the bigger loss was at third with Westburg going down. Urias filled in well, but his defense left something to be desired before he went down. Mayo just isn't a good defender right now and Ramirez is journeyman fill in guy.
Lastly, the biggest issue with the infield defense right now is the inconsistent play of Henderson. I love Gunnar, but he needs to be spelled a bit in the field. I would slide Soto or Maton at short a couple of times a week the next few weeks. DH Gunnar and take some ABs from the slumping Rutschmann. At the end of the day, the defense is a concern because you have to make plays at any level of play.

Another voice of reason. Thank goodness.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Not going to excuse our D from last night. Sure I think O'Hearn should have made that play. But it was tough he just didn't get it done.  But here's another point. Score more than 2 dang runs and that miscue and Henderson's mistake are pretty meaningless.

[russsnyder]

Not going to excuse our D from last night. Sure I think O'Hearn should have made that play. But it was tough he just didn't get it done. But here's another point. Score more than 2 dang runs and that miscue and Henderson's mistake are pretty meaningless.

I hear you, but Baz had good stuff last night.

[makoman]

O'Hearn should never wear an OF glove. I'd rather he rarely play 1B as well, but with Mounty hurt what can you do? Rivera, Maton, aren't reasonable options, then we'd be complaining about those bats in the lineup. I would think Santander or Mayo could do it, but the coaches know more than me there and Santander doesn't have a clear replacement either. Maybe if Kjerstad was healthy...